[ARCHIVED] - Evidence Vs Faith

[fr0d0]

A small request - would you mind putting a carriage return after quoting me/ before your line of text please.

No I take this from your own words. You actually say you will not accept it until you believe it.

What do you mean by "accept" here? Do you mean I won't believe it until I believe it? Are you stating a vacuously obvious tautology?

Yeah sorry - I really meant you won't entertain the idea without being able to accept it ...seemingly.

To ask me to explain something my faith is not takes the question outside of my reasoned stance.

I'm asking you to explain why belief in your God is rational, why believing on faith, in your faith - is rational, and how it can be if there's no evidence. I'm not asking you to change the definitions, and if you need to change them in order to explain - then how are you justifying it to yourself if it's so completely unexplainable? If you can't explain it to anyone else, how do you truly understand it yourself? How do you justify it as a rational belief?

It's perfectly explainable but every time I explain it you bounce back at me over the evidence issue, which has nothing to do with it. So you see you're asking me to describe what I don't ever address.

This question is your question to answer in regard to my belief. I can try to help you with it and I have many times.

And I appreciate your best efforts.

Thankyou

By evidence I just mean credence to a belief, I mean valid support to it. And my question is how you can justify a belief without evidence, "on faith", if then by definition the belief has no valid support, so is unsupported, there's no valid reason to believe.

By definition to me, faith is entirely the reason I believe. To arrive at that point, reasoning on a wealth of ideas comes into play. Still the point of faith has to be a leap. Why the leap?

I believe that Jesus is fully God and fully man. How is this possible with reason? The reason lies on the other side of the belief. Believing as much gives you access to God (I'll assume you understand that and the benefits).

So what's up there?

The sky