The Stage is Yours.

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The Stage is Yours.

Rayaan Offline

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RE: The Stage is Yours.

August 3, 2012 at 5:20 am (This post was last modified: August 3, 2012 at 5:25 am by Rayaan.)

(August 3, 2012 at 2:12 am)fr0d0 Wrote:

Maybe the language is from my dogma. It's what Christians say. The fully correct wording gets shortened and becomes confusing if you don't understand the references. I try to correct myself, but some slip through.

Yes I/ we do directly and personally know God. It's not just the bible. We accept that the bible is the word of God (is inspired by him and is very accurate), and check our thoughts against that. I need to talk in the lingo to say this, so please bear with me... I talk directly to God and he talks directly to me. This is the function of the Spirit in Christianity. It makes God known to us. Yes this is made possible through Jesus, but Jesus's physical being has no necessity in that (ugh - dogma alert ). His act of sacrifice does.
We treat the historicity as crucial and the miraculous as based on fact. But all of the time God's condition remains that he has to remain empirically unproven.

So the bible to Xtians is like the user manual to a direct contact with God. The bible is a record of what we can know about him. We think he is ultimately unknowable but that we can know some things. This is how we can define him. Part of that definition has to be his mystery.
Our life of faith isn't to live by a rule book, but to be directly inspired by him. To feel and experience the fullness of life that he gives out. I don't communicate with him in the 3rd person. I communicate directly. It's not "God be praised" but "I praise you", "I love you" etc.. This is what I mean by direct and personal.

Thanks for the elaboration, fr0d0. I've gotten a better understanding of what you mean by "direct and personal."

At the same time, your post brought more questions into my mind, but I would just like to wrap up and bring our discussion to a close for now. I have other more important things to do. This thread has taken quite a lot of time out of my hands, and I'm sure that it did to yours as well, so thanks for your time and patience. Also, I apologize for making you feel insulted by my comments whether it was intended or not.

And good luck with responding to Raph and the rest of the gang.

The stage is yours. Big Grin

(August 3, 2012 at 3:30 am)ElDinero Wrote:

(July 31, 2012 at 2:42 pm)ElDinero Wrote: It's never happened. Nor has fr0d0 blocking me, he'd never willingly miss out on engaging with me.

(July 31, 2012 at 2:55 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Yep well that's never happenned in the past Eld. People have always retreated to silence when I've come up with the goods. Some people have short memories. You guys are just deliberately stupid.

I'd like to reiterate that there is no way fr0d0 has blocked me and that he is blowing smoke and using the pretense of having me on block to avoid addressing me because he knows his arguments are fallacious and/or empty. He wouldn't block me because he wants to see what I'm saying. He may, however, be ignoring me, which wouldn't be surprising in the least.

Exhibit A: Above you'll see him respond to me, after claiming to have blocked me. Short memories indeed, fr0d0.