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a question for atheists
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RE: a question for atheists
(August 5, 2012 at 12:56 pm)laurent Wrote: If our universe exist because he is consistent

Not sure what you mean by this.

Quote:we can imagine other universes with life being way more difficult

Some of us can, absolutely.

Quote:how lucky we are to be in our universe

I wasn't aware that luck, except by clever turn of the phrase, had anything to do with that. What other universe would we be in?

Quote:If everything is directed by the laws of our universe

Directed is probably a poor choice of words, it carries baggage which does not apply. As far as we can tell, nothing is "directing" anything at all.

Quote:we are just a bunch of organic robot being fooled

Surely we aren't -just- that. You may be missing a few billion adjectives one might apply to the subject.

Quote:we are fooled to be free

Free from what? Fooled by whom or by what?

Quote:fooled to live

A large majority of that is on autopilot. No one has to trick you into breathing, for example.

Quote:why are we even conscious?

Offhand, because it's useful. Just taking a look at some of your other posts in this regard, specifically the notion that it doesn't "add anything". Really? Consciousness doesn't add anything? So, the fact that the large majority of dominant forms of life on this planet are all (to varying degrees) conscious creatures doesn't seem to suggest that consciousness might add something?

Quote:we can imagine the same universe filled with the same but unconscious peoples

We'd be playing fast and loose with the words conscious and peoples, sure, but we can imagine a great many things. If you meant that we can imagine the same rock (within this universe) filled with "less sentient" lifeforms, yeah, we can imagine that. Not only can we imagine it, it just so happened to be te case, once upon a time. And?

Quote:yet we are all fooled

Fooled about what, and by whom or what.......?

Quote:whats the point?

Strangely enough, I'm left asking myself the same at right about this point......
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a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by jonb - August 5, 2012 at 1:05 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by downbeatplumb - August 5, 2012 at 1:08 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 1:28 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Napoléon - August 5, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 1:20 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Napoléon - August 5, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by jonb - August 5, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by WhatIfGodWasJustAMyth - August 5, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Re: RE: a question for atheists - by NoraBrimstone - August 5, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Faith No More - August 5, 2012 at 1:50 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 1:59 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Jackalope - August 5, 2012 at 2:04 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by jonb - August 5, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Jackalope - August 5, 2012 at 2:30 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by LastPoet - August 5, 2012 at 2:25 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Jackalope - August 5, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Kayenneh - August 5, 2012 at 2:26 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by LastPoet - August 5, 2012 at 2:28 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 2:45 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by popeyespappy - August 5, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Faith No More - August 5, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 3:55 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2012 at 3:28 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 4:24 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 4:29 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Reforged - August 5, 2012 at 5:18 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Reforged - August 5, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by jonb - August 5, 2012 at 4:14 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2012 at 4:17 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by jonb - August 5, 2012 at 4:18 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Faith No More - August 5, 2012 at 4:21 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 5:26 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Reforged - August 5, 2012 at 5:34 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by KnockEmOuttt - August 5, 2012 at 4:27 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Annik - August 5, 2012 at 4:50 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Epimethean - August 5, 2012 at 5:03 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by jonb - August 5, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2012 at 5:23 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2012 at 5:28 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Napoléon - August 5, 2012 at 5:29 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 5:32 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 5:43 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 6:00 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by gyuk - August 5, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Epimethean - August 5, 2012 at 6:24 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Faith No More - August 5, 2012 at 6:27 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Napoléon - August 5, 2012 at 6:56 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by jonb - August 5, 2012 at 6:29 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Annik - August 5, 2012 at 6:32 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Cyberman - August 5, 2012 at 6:32 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Faith No More - August 5, 2012 at 7:57 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by Napoléon - August 5, 2012 at 8:48 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by jonb - August 5, 2012 at 8:07 pm
RE: a question for atheists - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2012 at 8:39 pm



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