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[ARCHIVED] - Evidence Vs Faith
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith
(You double posted the same thing, So I removed the latter).

The example of the ferrari says nothing for belief. I could be offered everything I've always want, do currently want, and will forever want. I could be offered not just a ferarri, but all the money in the world and eternal bliss. Such promises do nothing for a change in belief, I need to actually be convinced, that's what beliefs are, And promises do nothing for convincing. This is some kind of Pascal's Wager at best, and that's nothing because Pascal's wager does nothing for changing actual belief. And I don't see how the wager would work, if beforehand you completely disbelief how it would or could?

If it was true, that someone would give me a billion pounds if I believed in God. This would be only an argument for dishonestly feigning belief to get the money, it can't actually have an effect on my belief no matter how much I'd want it to.

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[ARCHIVED] - Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 2, 2009 at 9:57 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 3, 2009 at 7:53 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2009 at 8:22 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 3, 2009 at 8:41 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 3, 2009 at 8:54 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 12:15 am
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 12:20 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 4, 2009 at 4:30 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 5:32 pm
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 6:03 pm
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 4, 2009 at 9:40 pm
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 5, 2009 at 8:14 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 5, 2009 at 4:55 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 6, 2009 at 7:41 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 10:16 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 6, 2009 at 10:22 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 10:26 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 6, 2009 at 10:45 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 11:22 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 6, 2009 at 1:48 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 6, 2009 at 2:25 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 7, 2009 at 9:02 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 8, 2009 at 2:55 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 8, 2009 at 6:35 am
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 8, 2009 at 8:37 pm
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 9, 2009 at 9:35 pm
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 9:55 pm
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 10:23 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 10, 2009 at 10:41 pm
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 10, 2009 at 11:14 pm
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 11, 2009 at 2:59 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2009 at 3:21 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 11, 2009 at 4:11 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 11, 2009 at 6:59 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 12, 2009 at 2:27 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 12, 2009 at 6:37 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 12, 2009 at 11:28 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 12, 2009 at 11:30 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 12, 2009 at 11:50 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 12, 2009 at 8:29 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 13, 2009 at 4:58 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 13, 2009 at 8:03 am
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 13, 2009 at 10:05 am
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 13, 2009 at 7:43 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 14, 2009 at 4:05 am
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RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 14, 2009 at 12:37 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 14, 2009 at 10:27 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 15, 2009 at 1:56 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 15, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 15, 2009 at 3:58 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 18, 2009 at 10:00 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2009 at 6:19 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 18, 2009 at 8:43 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 19, 2009 at 7:18 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 19, 2009 at 8:52 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 19, 2009 at 12:40 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 20, 2009 at 7:26 am
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by fr0d0 - September 20, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: Evidence Vs Faith - by Edwardo Piet - September 20, 2009 at 5:52 pm

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