RE: Do your beliefs imply a Necessary being exists?
August 9, 2012 at 7:27 pm
(This post was last modified: August 9, 2012 at 7:30 pm by Cyberman.)
The whole thing positively reeks to me of the slimy tactics employed by the even slimier Sye Ten Bruggencate, Eric Hovind and their cohorts; get your opponent to set out their positions regarding their beliefs and then use weasel questions in an attempt to trap them into a seemingly logically inconsistent corner. Victory is then declared. I enter into evidence People's Exhibit A, m'lud: https://atheistforums.org/thread-12138-p...#pid268652
As for wanting to know the implications of my beliefs, remember I am an atheist. As far as the question of gods etc - including Necessary Beings - is concerned, I have no beliefs. Thus I do not recognise the burden.
Are you really so obtuse that you can't recognise satire when you see it, or is it all just an act for my benefit? Consider that the survey necessitates at least one person taking it. Thus by definition that person, as far as the survey is concerned (a phrase that obviously went clean over your head the first time round) is a Necessary Being.
As for wanting to know the implications of my beliefs, remember I am an atheist. As far as the question of gods etc - including Necessary Beings - is concerned, I have no beliefs. Thus I do not recognise the burden.
(August 9, 2012 at 7:20 pm)CliveStaples Wrote:(August 9, 2012 at 7:11 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Actually that's a very good point. As far as this survey is concerned, there has to be a Necessary Being... the person taking the survey.
Did you read the definition of the term "necessary being"? What makes you think that the person taking the survey has the following properties (which constitute the definition of Necessary Being):
(1) It is possible that it is a cause of something; (this one's pretty obvious)
(2) It is not possible (at any time) that it does not exist.
Is (2) true of the person taking the survey? How do you know that?
Are you really so obtuse that you can't recognise satire when you see it, or is it all just an act for my benefit? Consider that the survey necessitates at least one person taking it. Thus by definition that person, as far as the survey is concerned (a phrase that obviously went clean over your head the first time round) is a Necessary Being.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
