RE: Do your beliefs imply a Necessary being exists?
August 10, 2012 at 11:46 am
(This post was last modified: August 10, 2012 at 11:47 am by Cyberman.)
(August 9, 2012 at 10:23 pm)CliveStaples Wrote:(August 9, 2012 at 10:21 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Which I as an atheist do not share, so to channel Matt Dillahunty, why should I give a crap?
So you have no position with regard to any of the statements in the survey?
You don't believe that there is anything that has a cause?
I have never said that I don't believe that there is anything that has a cause. For example, the pain you are giving me in the arse has a direct and identifiable cause. The statements I gave and the opinions I expressed are clearly with reference to the topic at hand, id est this damn 'survey'. You, sir, are demonstrably dishonest.
(August 9, 2012 at 10:23 pm)CliveStaples Wrote:(August 9, 2012 at 10:21 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Which Rasmussen's paper, one of the cornerstones of this survey/test remember, informs us is another term for God. Everything else beyond the point at which I cut off your quote flows from this foundation. On the basis of all this, if you want the most honest answer to this question from me, a permanent atheist - and you do seem really interested in my opinion on this - it would be "no" without hesitation.
It seems like you're unwilling to think through the consequences of your beliefs. That is, you don't want to hear whether your beliefs entail the existence of a Necessary Being, because you think a Necessary Being eventually leads to God, and you don't believe in God.
So you're choosing to remain ignorant, lest you find out that your beliefs entail contradiction.
Since you have repeatedly demonstrated dishonesty by distorting my words to suit your own position; since you have repeatedly demonstrated dishonesty by asserting that I, an atheist, hold beliefs on the topic of beings of godlike distinction in general and an Essential Being in particular (which has clearly been revealed by one of the authors of the 'survey' to be nothing more than a thinly-veiled definition of God) despite having been corrected numerous times; since you have repeatedly demonstrated dishonesty by triumphantly concluding that my refusal to play the game is an admission of wilful ignorance; I bid you good day, sir. See you on the flip side.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
