RE: Christians
September 10, 2009 at 11:21 am
(This post was last modified: September 10, 2009 at 11:31 am by ecolox.)
(September 10, 2009 at 10:54 am)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Give me one example of something that is positive that belief in God can give you, that atheism can't, that isn't merely the placebo effect - and that can actually be backed up by evidence.
Hope and a reason for existing - results in a different lifestyle. Belief in God results from seeing this existence (all the evidence in the world) and answering the question of where it came from...
For you - where did this existence come from? Give me one explanation, so I know you're living for a reason.
(September 10, 2009 at 11:13 am)Ace Wrote:Quote:I'm waiting for a general explanation of why the universe exists - from you...so far you've assumed ignorance.You consider it ignorant of me to admit that I do not know the answer to how and why the universe exists? I consider it being honest not ignorant. What do you think you are doing? Your claiming the existence of a god and afterlife despite total lack of supporting evidence. It's ignorant to claim that you know how the universe began based on belief with no supporting evidence.
You are relying on the ignorant position - why do you think that suffices? It is honestly ignorant.
The supporting evidence for an ultimate cause is our existence. You are happy with ignorance. I know that there must be a cause, and I am seeking to explain what the cause must have been. God is what I have found to be true thus far.
(September 8, 2009 at 2:37 am)theVOID Wrote:ecolox Wrote:theVOID, you haven't explained why you exist, I have. You haven't even laid out the possibilities. There isn't much point in even addressing you unless you can do just that.
13.7 billion years ago the universe existed in a state we call the singularity, an infinitely dense point of energy containing all matter, energy, space and time......
That's what happened, what's your theory? Oh, let me guess, "Let there be light" right? How very rational and fact-based of you.
You haven't answered the question of why you exist - because you failed to explain where the singularity came from. You have to provide an explanation for our universe. You may as well have said that your mom birthed you such and such years ago, thats why you exist!
