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Presuppositional Fallacies
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RE: Presuppositional Fallacies
(August 12, 2012 at 2:44 pm)catfish Wrote: My point was that both "sides" do it. Albeit an atheist's presupposition is much smaller in scope.

And thank you for providing another demonstration of the ad hominem tu quoque (or "oh yeah, well you do it too") that always seems to work its way into a discussion of presuppositionalism.

The reason this is a fallacy is it's an attempt to justify one's own wrongdoing by accusing the "other side" of doing the same thing. The old saying is that "two wrongs don't make a right". Another part of the fallacy is that it's an accusation. Do we really do it too? Examples please.
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Presuppositional Fallacies - by DeistPaladin - August 12, 2012 at 12:15 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Anomalocaris - August 12, 2012 at 12:31 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 1:43 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 2:00 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Jackalope - August 12, 2012 at 2:10 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 2:14 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by DeistPaladin - August 12, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by DeistPaladin - August 12, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 2:52 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Tobie - August 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Tobie - August 12, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Jackalope - August 12, 2012 at 3:01 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 3:07 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by DeistPaladin - August 12, 2012 at 3:42 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 4:34 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by DeistPaladin - August 12, 2012 at 5:19 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Jackalope - August 12, 2012 at 2:23 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Jackalope - August 12, 2012 at 2:31 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 2:41 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Tobie - August 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Whateverist - August 12, 2012 at 2:53 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 2:55 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Faith No More - August 12, 2012 at 3:21 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 3:35 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Faith No More - August 12, 2012 at 3:37 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Anomalocaris - August 12, 2012 at 4:09 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 4:13 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by DeistPaladin - August 12, 2012 at 4:30 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by DeistPaladin - August 12, 2012 at 4:25 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by padraic - August 13, 2012 at 6:17 am
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by Jackalope - August 12, 2012 at 4:00 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 4:03 pm
RE: Presuppositional Fallacies - by catfish - August 12, 2012 at 4:28 pm

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