RE: The Need to Breed
August 14, 2012 at 11:04 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2012 at 11:14 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 14, 2012 at 10:52 pm)apophenia Wrote:(August 14, 2012 at 9:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You keep using the plural.......have we been reading the same thread?
So intentionally released viral or bacterial pandemics, technological innovations to improve the quantity of resources, voluntary limits on reproduction, forced limitation of reproduction, and re-engineering the human genome are all one solution according to you.
I'll have to remember this the next time you claim theists are out of touch with reality.
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The bolded bit is impossible, we could only hope to be more efficient with the use of resources, can't make something from nothing (and this is exactly what I argue for in every thread like this - and I got shit for it, if you'll read back a few posts). The italicized bit only works until someone tells you to go fuck yourself (which they will).
The rest are just different ways to forcibly control the population. What is it that I'm not effectively communicating about this? That is precisely what I take issue with, and I take issue with it because we seem to be on the track that population control would be easier or more effective than the bolded bit, well no shit, engineering a scenario where there are fewer humans around isn't exactly rocket science, but that doesn't make it a good idea. Well, I haven't seen anyone explain why, and I haven't seen anyone explain how we've reached that point, why we should favor population control over anything else.
Let me ask you Apo, why go through the trouble of intentionally releasing a viral plague, why go through the hassle of re-engineering our genome? A bullet to the head is just as effective and a hell of alot easier. Whats the fucking difference, are we hoping to wash our hands? Forced limitation of reproduction eh? By what means, likely, again, a bullet. You just let me know when you come up with something a little less sinister and genocidal, okay Apo?
(August 14, 2012 at 10:54 pm)Epimethean Wrote: So, Rhythm, to you, humanity's numbers are more important than its duration? Not sure on the math there, but I doubt a predatory no animal is safe run would kill us off due to ecological collateral damage more effectively than enforcing common sense.
No, Epi, according to a would-be-parent their child is more important than humanity's duration, and I don't personally think that I have a leg to stand on to argue with them to the contrary, especially the people who would be effected by this the most. Not you, not me (and I have a bunch of kids) no...again, overpopulation is not an issue of laws and regulations in first world countries. We don't need these laws, because we are already doing it.... We've already abandoned common sense if we're favoring population control over efficiency and conservation in the first place.
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