The Need to Breed

[The Grand Nudger]

Que? You said you would kill every other animal on the planet before implementing population control by controlling how many children people can have.

Yes, Shell, those are my animals. It should be pretty well known by now that I extend very little courtesy to animals other than human beings (and none if there's a conflict of interests)

Yes. The only reason I would consider it is if a partner strongly wanted one. I would love it no less, but I would prefer to adopt. I am nearly 30 years old and have had no children of my own, but raised someone elses. I think my life speaks for itself in that regard. I have no intention of having hordes of them, either, if I have any.

Sounds great Shell, nothing wrong with that.

No, we will, as we have always, have to rely on the intelligent people and those that give a shit.

Im not sure that everyone who is making the largest contribution to this problem is dumb, or doesn;t give a shit. In some cases having a ton of kids seems pretty damned smart, and I bet they're decent people even though they had a ton of kids. Here's the point that I'm really trying to drive home (Apo seems to think that I'm pulling this out of my ass but whatever). You and I don't have any confidence that others would willingly go down this road. If we really wanted to do this (population control) what options does that leave us? How have people responded to these sorts of things in the past? If they say "go fuck yourself" and we say "okay, well thanks anyway, have as many kids as you like" we're ot actually doing anything different than what we are doing now, we aren't actually controlling the population at al. If what we're doing now doesn't work (and that would seem to be the case thats being made) and we do want to control our population ( and that seems to be the case that's being made -not necessarily by you) then wtf are we talking about?

Of course, I see absolutely no reason why people would not be able to have one or two children. In fact, not allowing that is counterproductive. Thus, your example of not being able to have that child that your bleeding heart so strongly desired is just plain silly.

Tut tut, as of the last census we here in the US have a child per household on average. Telling them they can;t have one is telling the average they can't have any. For something like this to work it has to have an effect on the averages. If we already have an average of one or two kids, why do we need population control?

Of course people would be able to have children. We'd just have to kill octomom.

All the octomoms in this country weren't able to dent our very low child per household number. It's about all of us, not just a couple of people with 8 kids right? Look, Octomoms in the states are not the ones leading to this big overpopulation problem. I'm going to keep saying this until it really sinks in for everyone (not really directed at you Shell, you just presented me the opportunity).

Well, I certainly hope those people won't be the homicidal maniacs that think releasing genetically altered psychopathic maniacs or viruses into the population are not the ones making that decision. Of course, they will make thinning out the herd easier, as I am sure they will start massive war and wind up being the ones eating shit for it.

Hehehe, I hope alot for those people myself. Not the least of which is the hope that a significant portion of them are my direct descendants..and preferably a few dozen generations removed from dear old Great great - - - Grandad.lol.