Thread on Asatru

[The Grand Nudger]

Well, to call it "germanic paganism" is to be ethnocentric.

It's a snapshot in time Mehm, that's all.

It means that it's the ancient religious practices of a specific ethnicity.

No, it just means that it's what we can gather of the religious practices in the area when we take the snapshot. Has nothing to do with their ultimate origins.

It is present, because it has to be. Or it'd just be called "paganism" and would not even use a germanic word which draws it's roots from old norse.

LOL, ethnocentrism by use of a word in a specific langauge. Is that like ":not facism: because we use a different word for it"?

It worships the pantheon of Aesir, which was specific to the Germanic peoples, and to a lesser degree, by some Gaul-Germanic half-breeds.

Don't forget their other half [Vanir], those strange fertility gods that don't seem to fit with the warrior Aesir and find analogs in cultures far afield. Don't forget our understood difficulties in determining what is "germanic pagan" and what is later (mostly christian) revision, propaganda, or mistake (specifically with other cultures or just pure fantasy). What we have now, presented to us as the pagan religion of [insert european region here] is a huge mishmash of shit, carelessly hobbled together, mostly by monks (of yet another religion, adding their own shit to the narrative) centuries after the fact, and not in any way indicative of some specific ethnicity, or ethnic bias in origin.

You said, it wears it's "mixed blood on the sleeve"...
What exactly do you mean by this?

See the above.

You call it a "collection" of beliefs in a really weird manner. There is no collection of beliefs here. These people are trying to resurrect or at least reconstruct as best as they can, genuine germanic pagan practices, which are specific to the germanic culture of the time, to the point of it's termination.
I don't know how clearer this can get.

Neither do I, what they are resurrecting is a collection of beliefs, not all of which are of "Germanic" origin, and ultimately...none of which are of "Germanic" origin...as "germanic" peoples didn't spring forth from the ashes and oaks of northern fucking Europe (despite their claims to the contrary).

Indeed, indo-european beliefs have certain similarities to eachother, but these are very subtle, and have already grown to a point where they were very different from eachother at the point they have reached where tribes like germans, gauls etc. were recognizable.
It's like saying that Iranians can worship Thor and Germans can worship Ahura Mazda while having no ethno-cultural relationship with these cultures, although sharing the same language tree a very long while back.

They can. It's no different than worshiping any other deity. I don't see why you think this is so important, or why you think there's a problem......