First of all, sorry if this is in the wrong forum.
Also apologize ahead of time if this offends anybody.
I'm too lazy/can't be bothered to be religious or study the Bible. I hate reading most fictional works, which I believe the Bible sort of is. I don't think I'm 100% atheist, but I definately don't share religious beliefs with most organized religions.
I'm a gay male and don't want to be. It has nothing to do with religion, God, Jesus, sins, all that nonsense. I have a list of reasons.
a) Any gay male I've met has been sub-par, at best, with one or (usually) more of the following: really flawed personality, shitty or no job or goals in life, substance-user, or (as shallow as this is) really unattractive, among other stuff. And yes, I fit a few of those (the one I don't fit is that I'm strictly substance-free).
b) Gay males make fools of themselves in front of everybody, and pretty much make everybody hate them. They have to force their views and agenda onto everybody.
c) Less chance of finding love, obviously. I'm a misanthrope to begin with and hate most people. Finding a gay male I get along with can be almost impossible (I'm technically in a relationship but I doubt it'll work out). Finding someone I get along with AND find attractive... mission impossible.
d) It just feels embarrassing to me. Most societies force men to "act like men", including liking (feminine) women. It'd be one thing if I was one of the masculine gay men, but I'm not. Most people know I'm gay as soon as they meet me, no matter how hard I try to hide it. I'm too stereotypical and I feel ashamed. I know that it's because I was brainwashed by society into thinking this way, but I don't think there's any way to unbrainwash me.
You'll notice I'm not mentioning gay women (lesbians). While a few have annoyed the living daylight out of me with their radical feminazi views among other stuff, most have been very nice and decent, hard-working women. So I don't have much against them. Plus, they tend to keep quiet about being lesbians.
Anyway, the ex-gay ministries out there are only religious. I don't want that. I don't care about Christ or the Bible teachings. I just want to be a straight atheist. The few friends I do have are almost all straight atheists. They're the best people I've ever met.
Among the straight atheists who dislike homosexuals, they usually give good reasons. It has no intended purpose in nature (I feel useless). The gay men I've seen and met contributed nothing good to society. The feminine ones who preach acceptance of feminine men are teaching men that it's okay to be weak and girly, and that someone should be there to protect them. If I had more radical teachings of the opposite, maybe I'd have toughened up and have been more manly.
Sorry this thread was so long, I'll stop now.
So, is there any way to make myself straight while still not caring about religion? I just want to fit into society better, not feel ashamed/embarassed about myself, meet and date decent people, etc. Thanks for reading.
PS- I would have posted this on like an ex-gay forum... couldn't find any. Just Christian forums.
Also apologize ahead of time if this offends anybody.
I'm too lazy/can't be bothered to be religious or study the Bible. I hate reading most fictional works, which I believe the Bible sort of is. I don't think I'm 100% atheist, but I definately don't share religious beliefs with most organized religions.
I'm a gay male and don't want to be. It has nothing to do with religion, God, Jesus, sins, all that nonsense. I have a list of reasons.
a) Any gay male I've met has been sub-par, at best, with one or (usually) more of the following: really flawed personality, shitty or no job or goals in life, substance-user, or (as shallow as this is) really unattractive, among other stuff. And yes, I fit a few of those (the one I don't fit is that I'm strictly substance-free).
b) Gay males make fools of themselves in front of everybody, and pretty much make everybody hate them. They have to force their views and agenda onto everybody.
c) Less chance of finding love, obviously. I'm a misanthrope to begin with and hate most people. Finding a gay male I get along with can be almost impossible (I'm technically in a relationship but I doubt it'll work out). Finding someone I get along with AND find attractive... mission impossible.
d) It just feels embarrassing to me. Most societies force men to "act like men", including liking (feminine) women. It'd be one thing if I was one of the masculine gay men, but I'm not. Most people know I'm gay as soon as they meet me, no matter how hard I try to hide it. I'm too stereotypical and I feel ashamed. I know that it's because I was brainwashed by society into thinking this way, but I don't think there's any way to unbrainwash me.
You'll notice I'm not mentioning gay women (lesbians). While a few have annoyed the living daylight out of me with their radical feminazi views among other stuff, most have been very nice and decent, hard-working women. So I don't have much against them. Plus, they tend to keep quiet about being lesbians.
Anyway, the ex-gay ministries out there are only religious. I don't want that. I don't care about Christ or the Bible teachings. I just want to be a straight atheist. The few friends I do have are almost all straight atheists. They're the best people I've ever met.
Among the straight atheists who dislike homosexuals, they usually give good reasons. It has no intended purpose in nature (I feel useless). The gay men I've seen and met contributed nothing good to society. The feminine ones who preach acceptance of feminine men are teaching men that it's okay to be weak and girly, and that someone should be there to protect them. If I had more radical teachings of the opposite, maybe I'd have toughened up and have been more manly.
Sorry this thread was so long, I'll stop now.
So, is there any way to make myself straight while still not caring about religion? I just want to fit into society better, not feel ashamed/embarassed about myself, meet and date decent people, etc. Thanks for reading.
PS- I would have posted this on like an ex-gay forum... couldn't find any. Just Christian forums.
