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Atheist and ex-gay?
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RE: Atheist and ex-gay?
(August 25, 2012 at 1:37 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Sports, cars, and stereotypical guy stuff don't interest me either amigo, no worries on that count. Most heavy metal and rap is shit (but that's not unique to heavy metal or rap). Maybe you're too hung up on what you think (or what others think) it means to be masculine? You're swinging richard yes? Whatever you do is ipso facto masculine -for you-...and that's perfectly okaaay. I'm okay, you're okay...we're all okay..lol.
Swinging Richard? What's that? If it's this, then no. Where did you get that from?

And why does anything a guy does have to be masculine though? Again, I realize this is society's fault, but, over the course of nearly 20 years, has made me feel embarrassed, ashamed, self-hatred.
(August 25, 2012 at 2:32 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Personality traits like musical tastes, though, that doesn't work the same way. Changing your personality might be hard, but I think it would be easier than changing your sexual orientation.
I actually don't know about that... sexuality almost seems easier to change, and I'd get more pride out of it.

(August 25, 2012 at 2:32 pm)TaraJo Wrote: It's one of the difficult things about being single in general: no good options. Truth is, if there were a perfect guy out there, you know, has a great job, good personality, doesn't embarrass himself or others, all that stuff, he probably isn't going to be single. I mean, if you were dating the perfect man, would you break up with him? I know I wouldn't. If he did find himself single, somehow, it wouldn't be long before he winds up in a relationship again (unless he specifically isn't looking for a relationship, which, again, puts him in the 'unattainable' category).

Thing is, all this applies to heterosexual relationships, too. If a woman is Ms. Perfect, she isn't going to be single too long. If she has some huge, glaring flaw, yeah, she's going to be single because she chases away potential suitors.
This is so fucking true. All the great guys I met were taken. Any good guy who comes out of the closet becomes taken in a long-term relationship within 5 minutes. Those of us who remain are probably garbage in some way (or just considered unattractive).

Ryantology Wrote:You don't need to change your personality, because living with whatever orientation you have does not mean you have to adhere to stereotypes to legitimize yourself. Be whatever makes you comfortable.
So then, shouldn't a straight guy be able to be a bit feminine like I am, without being stigmatized so much? Most people don't understand that. I should, by your logic, be able to tell people I'm straight without them questioning it. But nope, I can't. Oh well.
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Atheist and ex-gay? - by sleep - August 22, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Re: Atheist and ex-gay? - by NoraBrimstone - August 22, 2012 at 12:20 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 22, 2012 at 12:29 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by LastPoet - August 22, 2012 at 12:32 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by jonb - August 22, 2012 at 12:42 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Rev. Rye - August 22, 2012 at 12:44 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Kayenneh - August 22, 2012 at 12:46 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 22, 2012 at 12:49 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Faith No More - August 22, 2012 at 12:50 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by C.W. Sims - August 22, 2012 at 1:44 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by C.W. Sims - August 22, 2012 at 2:38 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by C.W. Sims - August 22, 2012 at 2:42 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 22, 2012 at 2:44 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 22, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by C.W. Sims - August 22, 2012 at 2:54 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Jackalope - August 22, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 22, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 22, 2012 at 3:03 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 22, 2012 at 3:08 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by C.W. Sims - August 22, 2012 at 3:15 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 22, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by sleep - August 23, 2012 at 12:00 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by festive1 - August 23, 2012 at 12:37 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Jaysyn - August 23, 2012 at 8:26 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 23, 2012 at 10:54 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Shell B - August 23, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Erinome - August 23, 2012 at 1:16 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by sleep - August 23, 2012 at 8:52 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 9:12 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Lion IRC - August 23, 2012 at 3:16 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2012 at 3:27 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Lion IRC - August 23, 2012 at 9:47 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Ryantology - August 24, 2012 at 11:57 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Shell B - August 23, 2012 at 3:30 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Lion IRC - August 23, 2012 at 4:01 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by 5thHorseman - August 23, 2012 at 3:44 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Shell B - August 23, 2012 at 4:02 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Lion IRC - August 23, 2012 at 4:27 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 23, 2012 at 8:32 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 8:37 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 23, 2012 at 8:55 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2012 at 9:02 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Kayenneh - August 23, 2012 at 9:04 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Creed of Heresy - August 23, 2012 at 10:24 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by DeistPaladin - August 23, 2012 at 10:53 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Tiberius - August 23, 2012 at 12:27 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 23, 2012 at 12:30 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 23, 2012 at 1:38 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by DeistPaladin - August 23, 2012 at 2:28 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 23, 2012 at 3:05 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 23, 2012 at 3:09 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by jonb - August 23, 2012 at 12:35 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by NoraBrimstone - August 23, 2012 at 2:11 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Faith No More - August 23, 2012 at 3:48 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Lion IRC - August 23, 2012 at 5:59 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 23, 2012 at 6:09 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Lion IRC - August 23, 2012 at 6:10 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 23, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Lion IRC - August 23, 2012 at 6:25 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Shell B - August 23, 2012 at 6:30 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 23, 2012 at 6:34 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Ryantology - August 23, 2012 at 8:10 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 23, 2012 at 6:54 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 24, 2012 at 10:21 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by sleep - August 24, 2012 at 5:16 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by TaraJo - August 24, 2012 at 6:31 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by sleep - August 25, 2012 at 1:17 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 25, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by TaraJo - August 25, 2012 at 2:32 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by sleep - August 25, 2012 at 4:07 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by TaraJo - August 25, 2012 at 4:37 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Ryantology - August 25, 2012 at 10:32 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Ryantology - August 25, 2012 at 2:59 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 24, 2012 at 8:41 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2012 at 1:50 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Faith No More - August 25, 2012 at 1:36 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2012 at 1:37 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Shell B - August 25, 2012 at 11:39 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by sleep - August 26, 2012 at 10:03 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Shell B - August 26, 2012 at 11:44 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by sleep - August 27, 2012 at 7:14 am
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 27, 2012 at 9:22 am
Re: Atheist and ex-gay? - by NoraBrimstone - August 26, 2012 at 1:18 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by Napoléon - August 26, 2012 at 1:21 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RE: Atheist and ex-gay? - by frankiej - August 27, 2012 at 9:30 am

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