RE: The Christian mindset
November 3, 2008 at 11:46 am
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2008 at 11:53 am by Daystar.)
EvidenceVsFaith,
A scientific theory is one that has yet to be disproved? How can you prove that we were created or that we evolved? You can't, so evolution is the best they can come up with because they don't even want to consider creation. When a theory becomes more important than the question the theory attempts to address it is time to reevaluate the science. Science doesn't blindly dismiss a possibility without having to explain it or test it unless there is something corrupting the scientific process. Money, politics.
Chewing the cud is when an animal brings up food from the digestive system and chews it again. Mosaic Law made the distinction between Clean and Unclean animals to eat. The chewers of cud with split or cleft hooves (stag, gazelle, roebuck, antelope, chamois, domestic and wild cattle, sheep and goats) were clean and legal to eat. The unclean were the camel, rock badger and hare of rabbit. (Leviticus 11:1-8, 26 / Deuteronomy 14:4-8)
Most cud chewers have three or four compartments in their stomach and cycle food in a similar pattern. Partially chewed into the first cavity, and from there into the second where it is softened and shaped into round cuds. When the animal stops eating and rests a muscular contraction forces the cuds back into the mouth for rechewing and mixing with saliva. Then it goes through the first and second compartments into the third and fourth to complete the digestion.
In the past there was scientific dispute on the hare as a chewer of cud. Skeptics claimed that the hare didn't chew its cud as the Bible stated. 18th century English poet William Cowper, who observed his domestic rabbits said they "chewed the cud all day till evening." Famed naturalist of the same century, Linnaeus believed that rabbits chewed the cud. The French Morot discovered in 1882 that rabbits reingest up to 90% of their daily intake. Ivan T. Sanderson remarked: "One of the most extraordinary [habits], to our way of thinking, is their method of digestion. This is not unique to Leporids [hares, rabbits] and is now known to occur in many Rodents. When fresh green food, as opposed to desiccated [dried] winter forage, is available, the animals gobble it up voraciously and then excrete it around their home lairs in a semi-digested form. After some time this is then re-eaten, and the process may be repeated more than once. In the Common Rabbit, it appears that only the fully grown adults indulge this practice. - Living Mammals of the World, 1955, p. 114.
British scientist of this century observed that the rabbits' habits (Huh ... I like that; Rabbits Habits) and published their findings in the Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London, 1940, Vol. 110, pp. 159 - 163. I will save you the lengthy details, but suffice it to say, they found that the hare chewed its cud.
Dr. Waldo L. Schmitt, Head Curator, Department of Zoology of the Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C., agrees.
As for what you said regarding the Bible as contradicting itself so much and at the same time saying you know very little about the Bible I have to ask is that evidence or faith? I have a little game I used to play on Atheist message boards - a challenge to anyone to present only one contradiction that I can't refute.
You know that I have never lost this game. Most of the time I can even provide information that the skeptic or atheist themselves are satisfied with as a refutation.
Anyone? Got contradiction?
Meatball,
I don't remember having quoted Expelled, I just brought it up. If you watch the movie you will see that respected professors, some with tenure, journalists and scientists are being persecuted not for believing in ID but for just suggesting that there be some fair discussion or referencing some other respected source who was known to believe in ID.
It really is interesting - sort of a revenge of science upon religion which I think is - in some sense - fair, though, like I said turnabout.
A scientific theory is one that has yet to be disproved? How can you prove that we were created or that we evolved? You can't, so evolution is the best they can come up with because they don't even want to consider creation. When a theory becomes more important than the question the theory attempts to address it is time to reevaluate the science. Science doesn't blindly dismiss a possibility without having to explain it or test it unless there is something corrupting the scientific process. Money, politics.
Chewing the cud is when an animal brings up food from the digestive system and chews it again. Mosaic Law made the distinction between Clean and Unclean animals to eat. The chewers of cud with split or cleft hooves (stag, gazelle, roebuck, antelope, chamois, domestic and wild cattle, sheep and goats) were clean and legal to eat. The unclean were the camel, rock badger and hare of rabbit. (Leviticus 11:1-8, 26 / Deuteronomy 14:4-8)
Most cud chewers have three or four compartments in their stomach and cycle food in a similar pattern. Partially chewed into the first cavity, and from there into the second where it is softened and shaped into round cuds. When the animal stops eating and rests a muscular contraction forces the cuds back into the mouth for rechewing and mixing with saliva. Then it goes through the first and second compartments into the third and fourth to complete the digestion.
In the past there was scientific dispute on the hare as a chewer of cud. Skeptics claimed that the hare didn't chew its cud as the Bible stated. 18th century English poet William Cowper, who observed his domestic rabbits said they "chewed the cud all day till evening." Famed naturalist of the same century, Linnaeus believed that rabbits chewed the cud. The French Morot discovered in 1882 that rabbits reingest up to 90% of their daily intake. Ivan T. Sanderson remarked: "One of the most extraordinary [habits], to our way of thinking, is their method of digestion. This is not unique to Leporids [hares, rabbits] and is now known to occur in many Rodents. When fresh green food, as opposed to desiccated [dried] winter forage, is available, the animals gobble it up voraciously and then excrete it around their home lairs in a semi-digested form. After some time this is then re-eaten, and the process may be repeated more than once. In the Common Rabbit, it appears that only the fully grown adults indulge this practice. - Living Mammals of the World, 1955, p. 114.
British scientist of this century observed that the rabbits' habits (Huh ... I like that; Rabbits Habits) and published their findings in the Proceedings of the Zoological Society of London, 1940, Vol. 110, pp. 159 - 163. I will save you the lengthy details, but suffice it to say, they found that the hare chewed its cud.
Dr. Waldo L. Schmitt, Head Curator, Department of Zoology of the Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C., agrees.
As for what you said regarding the Bible as contradicting itself so much and at the same time saying you know very little about the Bible I have to ask is that evidence or faith? I have a little game I used to play on Atheist message boards - a challenge to anyone to present only one contradiction that I can't refute.
You know that I have never lost this game. Most of the time I can even provide information that the skeptic or atheist themselves are satisfied with as a refutation.
Anyone? Got contradiction?
Meatball,
I don't remember having quoted Expelled, I just brought it up. If you watch the movie you will see that respected professors, some with tenure, journalists and scientists are being persecuted not for believing in ID but for just suggesting that there be some fair discussion or referencing some other respected source who was known to believe in ID.
It really is interesting - sort of a revenge of science upon religion which I think is - in some sense - fair, though, like I said turnabout.
