RE: So...guess I'm the new guy
August 31, 2012 at 5:04 pm
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2012 at 5:30 pm by Reforged.)
(August 31, 2012 at 4:41 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote:(August 31, 2012 at 7:35 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Oh no no no, you don't get to walk away with that.
What things are you referring to that science makes metaphysical assumptions on?
Elaborate, explain.
Also, I'd like to point out I never made any statement claiming science explains alot of the universe. I merely made the observation that science has been solely responsible for every major technological breakthrough and discovery humanity has ever made using reproducible methods that work time after time and will likely continue to play this unique and important role.
Metaphysics "explains" very little. Its all unbacked philosophy and theory. It can be entertaining, even interesting but for now there is nothing metaphysics can be used for except creating arguments that require no evidence. It produces no results.
We haven't even seen alot of the universe let alone explained it.
Explain how science has been solely responsible for every major technological breakthrough, as opposed to saying, say, "humans have been solely responsible for every major technological breakthrough".
And explain to me why technological breakthroughs are the most important measure of human progress. As opposed to, say, moral advances, intellectual advances, or even religious advances.
sci·ence/ˈsīəns/
Noun:
The intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural...
A particular area of this: "veterinary science".
Scientific advances are intellectual advances. Anything else you'd like me to google for you?
Oh and why are technological breakthroughs the most important measure of human progress?
Is that seriously what you're asking me using your keyboard to type an electronic message on your personal computer to be posted on the internet while in the confines of a central heated house with electrical lights, telephones that can be used to talk to people thousands upon thousands of miles away, a fridge that helps freshly store food you've bought with money from your bank account powered by an economic system that would otherwise be impossible if not for the many means of transportation, communication and storage of information made widely available to almost every single individual who isn't living in a third world country?
Well? Is that what you're asking me?
Morality is a luxury you wouldn't be able to afford if your survival wasn't so completely assured by the technology that surrounds you.
The very fact you are even having this conversation is thanks to scientific discovery.
As for "religious advances", don't make me laugh. Like what? The admission that stoning people isn't very nice? I think you'll find religion wasn't required for that particular gem of wisdom. Infact I'd go so far as to say it was dragged kicking and screaming toward it. Large parts of the world are still struggling with that concept thanks to religious dogma.
What "advances" are these?
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die."
- Abdul Alhazred.
- Abdul Alhazred.