Where do atheists get their morality from?

[Cyberman]

I appreciate this is backtracking somewhat but this thread moves awfully fast (notwithstanding our resident New York Scouse Mafioso cabbie littering up the place) but I just have to clarify something.

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Clearly they do enjoy those things, otherwise I rather suspect they wouldn't bother. The point, however, is not that they went to investigate the dead bird but that they do it as a group, calling to each other such that everyone gets to eat rather than just one selfish individual as animals are supposed to be, at least according to those I've seen who hold that only humans are capable of such altruism. Note that there is no need for them to do this: they forage for food as a group, as this naturally gives them a greater chance of finding it. However, finding the dead bird means they have located a (potential) food source; it's in the best interests of the bird/s that found it to keep it to themselves. There is no requirement for the discoverer/s to tell the rest of the group. Yet they do.

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Interesting. Thank you for the elaboration. I didn't get that nuance from the initial presentation.

Honesty compels me to point out that I made those comments before I'd read the BBC Nature article. Naughty of me, I know, but I was simply going off the quote from the article shared by downbeatplumb and Atom's response. I'm afraid I allowed our particulate friend to lead me off track into uncharted areas, so I'm not surprised you didn't get such a nuance as it didn't form part of the presentation.

However, misguided as it is, I still feel that the response I gave stands on its own merits as a workable scenario in answer to Atom's red herring queries.