(September 3, 2012 at 5:15 pm)idunno Wrote: AITIA, give me a chance to look up this demon of which your speak. Is strictly a deterministic system? Are you affirming that the only way God could know the future is by knowing every cause that preceded an effect?
Here you go:
Marquis Pierre Simon de Laplace Wrote:"We may regard the present state of the universe as the effect of its past and the cause of its future. An intellect which at any given moment knew all of the forces that animate nature and the mutual positions of the beings that compose it, if this intellect were vast enough to submit the data to analysis, could condense into a single formula the movement of the greatest bodies of the universe and that of the lightest atom; for such an intellect nothing could be uncertain and the future just like the past would be present before its eyes."
(September 3, 2012 at 5:15 pm)idunno Wrote: That leaves you in the position of substantiating that determinism is true, and that the only way God can know the future is if it is in fact entirely deterministic.
By definition omniscience requires determinism as a prerequisite.
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God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
