(September 4, 2012 at 9:40 am)genkaus Wrote:(September 4, 2012 at 8:59 am)stephenmills1000 Wrote: Would you agree then that a conscious being able to create the universe, must necessarily have greater power and knowledge than that within the universe which would otherwise be or would be the most powerful and/or most knowledgable?
Nope. There is no justification for this.
(September 4, 2012 at 8:59 am)stephenmills1000 Wrote: This gives us a being of great power and intelligence; a independent being itself, which humans and all of existence are contingent upon (thus objective). This, to me at least, makes for (literally) a great authority. This was essentially what was meant from:
Except, you are using the word "objective" incorrectly here and you simply have no idea what this being could be contingent upon.
This was not an argument to justify such a being's existence, only the attributes it would necessarily possess to be what was described previously. You may freely treat it hypothetically. Also, if the being was contingent upon something else, then that being would have greater power, and thus be the subject of this discussion.
In that light, would you agree then?
