(September 4, 2012 at 12:51 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: No.
The point in the OP was that secularism treated some people like garbage while flying the flag of tolerance, pluralism and humanism. At least, a significant portion of the world's culture felt that way. Women, Muslims, minorities. The original post called for an examination of the notion of "conservative secularism", where these kind of people might be accepted without feeling like secularism treats them like shit.
No.
The point of the OP was how the religious foreigners felt more comfortable around religious domestics. That "secularism treats them like crap" was never brought up. And the argument given did not cover "a significant portion of world's culture", it covered deeply religious foreigners. It certainly did not cover three separate categories of Muslims, women and minorities, it covered one specific minority of Muslim women.
So, to summarize, you found an article about how foreign Muslim women feel more accepted and comfortable in religious environment like Catholic colleges and instead of drawing the obvious conclusion that this may be due to similar conservative values and less of a culture shock (something which was explicitly stated in the article), you thought that it was something wrong with secularism. The fact is, it is precisely due to the pluralist, secular environment, that they feel uncomfortable and rejected. Being in such an environment means coming across wildly differing ideologies and since they are not used to it, they are not comfortable with it. If they feel like they are being treated like shit, it's their problem.
And please try to remember the arguments you make.
