(September 4, 2012 at 2:21 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:(September 4, 2012 at 12:19 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: Intuition moved us from base animal instincts into civilization. I think that was a greater move than even clean drinking water and open heart surgery, let alone nintendo.
You're showing your a scientism, Drake. You have no idea of the role intuition played for human progress. Sure, it isn't perfect. But the things it got right, and the things it can get right have made us who we are. It's failures have led to future intuitive successes.
Did you miss the definition of intuition or are you just dense? It is instinctual, pure and simple.
Yeah, discovering the methods for making fire, building structures, making clothing. That had nothing to do with moving away from our primitive origins. We could of done without that. Do you ever actually read through your posts before sending them? Because I would be embarrassed to send a retort of that calibre.
"Scientism". Theres that word again. The idea anyone thinks any method universally applicable without having first seen the universe is absurd. Real scientists do not make claims about what they have no information on, they can only speculate and theorize on the unknown until more information is obtained on it. You don't know if science in its current state is applicable to the universe or not and neither do I. Probably not, we don't know everything. If we did science wouldn't be necessary as discoveries would be redundant. We only know it has so far been applicable to every discovery made and every technology produced. It has improved mankind's condition far more than anyone could measure.
You are making a snap judgement that there is something in the universe that has not got a rational, scientific explanation. You can not possibly know that there is and it is arrogant for you to presume you do when mankind as a whole knows so little about the universe it inhabits.
It becomes increasingly obvious with every post you make you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Now once again; give me an example of a metaphysical assumption science makes or retreat. Do not continue to insult the intellect of this forum through brazenly dodging the question.
Wow. I didn't know you were arguing from the grade school dictionary.
Let me clarify my claim so that it fits within your dictionary paradigm. When I referred to intuition, I was referring to man's own mental faculty. Including your definition of intuition but not solely limited to it. We are talking about a priori and a posteriori reasoning as they are processed by the human cognition.
Ie, the human mind.
If I had to choose between the existence of minds but not science, or the existence of science but not minds, I would always go with the former, because the former is greater and naturally leads to science. But science on its own does not lead to minds. Science is just data collection and analysis guided by the mind. It's nothing special or worthy of worship.
Give up your science obsession. It's ridiculous. The human mind is where it's at.