America's War on Drugs

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Alcohol is one thing, but we all know our limits. Besides, we do not partake in excessive alcohol in front of our elders.

Alcohol is worse than marijuana

We do, but alcohol is one thing, and marijuana is another. Let's compare a family dinner with raki to a family bong party. Right, they are similar. Besides, our elders always tell us to abstain from bad things, whereas this man's elder has no objections of his grand-nephew smoking a hallucinogenic drug before his eyes, which is something I deem to be an unabashed form of behaviour.

Alcohol impairs judgement far worse than Marijuana. You do not need "bongs" there are many smokeless forms of marijuana from edibles, to tea, to vaprizors.

It really doesn't matter. Hashish and opium were, as a matter of fact, a common drug during a period in Turkish history, whereas many Sultans have enacted strict bans on the coffee-house culture with which this poison was given to our people, mostly in big cities like Istanbul. But enough of history. I can tell you more if you'd want to hear it, but later.

Marijuana (hashish)........... and Heroin (opium).......... are nowhere near the same thing you're an idiot if you think otherwise

Our family is a family of well-behaved, well-mannered and well-educated people with a good reputation. Religious taboos were never a too strictly enforced thing in our family, yet our customs and culture(even during the times when opium was commonly eaten) does not allow for such psychedelic and hallucinogenic drugs to be used within the vicinity of family members, or within generic society.
Even if a person of my family were to use drugs, we would have no knowledge of it, for he'd hide it out of his shame, and once we'd learn it, we'd active seek to free him from this vice of his, not tell him "That's okay, lemme take a hit.".

It's insane (too me) that you think eating opium is okay as long as it's not in front of kids, but youre chastizing Cthulu Dreaming for smoking weed, with his parents, if you weren't Turkish I'd assume you were mentally insane to admit this

Yes, now comes this so called "naturalist" argument. Not everything that is natural is good. Nor is everything that is "unnatural" as you say it, bad.
Besides, these two don't have the same effects.

I actually agree with you here, peyote, cocaine, and as we said before, opium is all natural.... I 100% fully support marijuana legalization but i hate this "all natural" argument.....salt is all natural you can still kill yourself with it

That's due to the rightful stigma attached to marijuana use, and the fact that it's not easily available in stores. If it were to be legalized, I'm sure that we'd have another ban coming for it right away.

In America weed is easier to get as a teenager than alcohol......

I'd like to have a world where no one would have to resort to things like marijuana to have an artificially induced dopamine release, but I guess we don't live in such a world, and some people are desperate to find happiness in small things like drugs. Not even alcohol, for alcohol too, is not something that should be glorified even when faced with things like psychedelic and hallucinogenic drugs.
But social and governmental laws exist therefore to protect the people when the people are too weak to protect themselves.
Anyone who wants to ruin his life with the usage of drugs can do so. But he does not have the right to ruin other people's lives by making marijuana, or any other drug appear to be "good" and "acceptable" to the public, or advocating it's legal sale and production.

so just say you're "against any and all drugs or intoxicants including sugar and caffeine" nobody will have a problem with it, but singling out marijuana as worse than alcohol is fucking retarded

Lol as much as you want to. I'm just giving you and your grand-uncle as an example of how drugs and drug users have become shameless as to do their thing in front of their fellow family members.
Like if you two were of the same age, and like cousins or something, I'd probably had not given the same reaction. But this behavour of yours transcends all elder-youth relations and limits, especially those within family.
And once these are done with, we'll be having every kind of vice in the streets. Besides, I did not speak of murder or rape-they already happen in the streets. However they are deemed to be a crime, and are severely punished by the law. You on the other hand show no shame in smoking that drug of yours in front of your elder. What shame would you have in doing it in front of the public?
Worse, your elder has no such shame.
Although I must admit I've heard of worse on the internet. People who smoke marijuana with their parents, sisters, brothers and etc.

sorry in the West were not brain washed to worship our parents and hide things from them most of us are completely open and honest with our parents and relatives

And therefore it was illegalized almost everywhere. Some countries have even the death penaly for it if you're caught possessing it.
Always been fine? Your marijuana is not so different from other drugs like opiates and cocaine and etc. Psychedelic and hallucinogenic drugs have been around for a long time now, but no one really praised them in front of the public, nor deemed them something good for the society as to actually allow their widespread use. I've already said before, opium, a drug very similar to marijuana when eaten/smoked was banned in China, which resulted in wars!
And during that time, opium usage was strictly banned in England, Scotland and Ireland, with harsh punishments while the poison was sold elsewhere.

Why I am so harsh with you is because the way you behave about drugs is a dangerous way to behave. Previously, drugs were something that had to be done in secrecy, away from family members.
Even things like cigarettes which lack the mind-altering abilities of marijuana would be smoked in secrecy, away from family members, and were a reason of shame when discovered. But obviously, something which is like marijuana is now brandished as something good for you. Parents shouldn't be mad when they catch their children smoking marijuana in their rooms, they should instead smoke along with them. Because marijuana is better than cigarettes, right? I saw it on a chart, no one has died from marijuana yet!
Such tales are tales of children. You fool yourselves with these lies, while spreading misinformation that poison and cloud the minds of people who have not fallen into the trap of illegal drugs.

you're filled with fear and lies, I don't know where to start with this load of crap, I'll wait until you respond to the rest