So...guess I'm the new guy

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The only thing I changed was putting "one" instead of "1" and "put with" instead of "add".

If I add one chestnut to a pocket already containing one chestnut what is the physical result and could you give it a numerical value?
Are you having some trouble doing this? Would you like help?

You have to have a prior concept of mathematics in order to give it any mathematical value.

Without knowing, or assuming 1+1=2, you could not make such a claim.

Are you saying numerical values were not assigned descriptively to physical objects before mathematics was refined?

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I thought this was fundamental, commonsense knowledge. I can't believe it's being denied that science makes assumptions it cannot prove.

I really can't be bothered to look up "scientific theory" for you and explain why science as a rule doesn't make assumptions as opposed to a hypothesis made with what little information available that is not to be taken as a given but be used as an area of study so that we might learn more. I mean honestly. Even our more prominent and outspoken of theists grasp this basic concept.
Just to be clear I'm not saying mathematics is one of these unproven theories, it has more than enough proof behind it. If you don't think so why don't you give up the very concept of logic and mathematics and see how much better off you are. Honestly, go ahead and do it and see how well you do. Call it an experiment. It might make things like cooking, shopping, working, financing, time-keeping, map-reading or any form of activity that requires an intelligent individual to assign values to physical objects rather difficult but go ahead anyway and come back and tell us how maths and logic has no physical applications that prove its validity. Of course this also means you couldn't use any technology that had used mathematical specifications and formulas to theorize and develop it so I guess you'd be restricted to horse riding and cooking using an open fire. Oh and your clothes were made using machinery developed with mathematical precision so you'd need to burn them and get new hand-woven threads made by the illiterate and uneducated to make sure they're not counting while they do it. Perhaps you could go join the Amish while you're at it. Oh wait... no, even they use mathematics.
I'm sure your intuition will get you by just as well though. Do tell us how it went when you return.
Bye then. :-)

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If only.