America's War on Drugs

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Kilic, you're falling into your own bias.

I guess you can just call it bias when you can't say anything else.
Illicit drugs are not a matter of bias, friend.

As someone who used to work at a liquor store, I can tell you that the only difference between alcohol and illicit drugs is the legal status.

I don't know how working at a liquor store is going to make your statements more true or believable, but I too know people who are alcoholics. Say that these alcoholics would smoke marijuana rather than alcohol. Would they have been in a better state? I don't think so.

Anything you can or have said against illicit drugs can be said about alcohol.

I'm not defending alcohol in terms of how it can ruin a person's life, or have a negative impact on society and family if it is used untimely, and in excess.
Alcohol is now a part of accepted social life. There are bars, pubs restaurants and etc. in which alcohol is treated as a beverage, rather than a drug to get high. Besides, most people do not drink to get drunk. I personally don't.

So ask yourself, what is it about alcohol that you are okay with it being legal?

Alcohol is a beverage that is well integrated into society.
Besides, alcohol does not have hallucinogenic properties. Even if you get drunk, you have a hangover the next day, and then you don't drink for the day, or for extended periods of time, if you're a normal, well-behaving drinker. On the other hand, marijuana is nothing like it. It makes you lazy, and psychologically dependent, if you nothing better to do.
Alcohol too, can be like that, but you ought to consume a lot more than you have to usually with marijuana. If alcoholics were introduced into marijuana, I'm guessing that they would attach themselves to marijuana than to alcohol.

Notice how alcohol scores higher on the harm rating than not only marijuana (cannabis), but LSD, ecstasy, tobacco, amphetamines and ketamines.

I'm taking a look at the graph, but I really don't know what the exact variables are. Without variables graphs mean nothing to me.

Like, according to this graph, Solvents, like for example toluene that I've previously mentioned, are said to be less dangerous than cannabis, although I can positively state from personal experience that solvents are more destructive than any of the stuff that is mentioned above.
When they mean harm, I have no real idea what they mean by "harm". Harm to user? Harm to the people who are close to the user? What kind?

Some of these things are outlawed yet others are completely legal, despite some of them clearly being more dangerous than others.

The reason why some appear to be more dangerous than other is due to their legality. If alcohol and tobacco, were to be illegal, they'd rank below cannabis, but if cannabis were to be legal, it'd probably take up it's place above both.

If that's the case Mehmet you should be taking equal case with not just weed but alcohol. You don't seem to be doing that here.

As I said, alcohol is a different case than the others. Unlike illicit drugs, it has a larger social acceptance, and finds itself a broader range of applications in society.
Where exactly do drugs fit in?

My position however is that all drugs should be legal because we should have the freedom to put into our body what we want, no matter how stupid that thing you want to put into your body is.

Well, I'm not concerned with what you put in your body.
I'm concerned with how it will impact society. I only oppose the legal sale and production of illicit drugs. But the rest is not really my responsibility.

and chastise us for using drugs which THEY don't approve of.

Well, I'm sure that they'd profit a lot more from cannabis and other types of drugs like cocaine and heroin, since they are obviously easier to manufacture than alcohol, which needs time, and tobacco, which needs more space, time and workers.

Once that's done, I'm sure that every government will realize it's mistake and forbid the sale and production of illicit drugs once again, but until then, it will have claimed the lives of how many, and caused social collapse which degrees, who knows.

Clearly mehmet you have not lived at all. WTF do you guys DO in Turkey??

What do you mean by what?
I don't understand you, really, as like the best thing your life ought to be drugs. Well actually, for a person who uses drugs on a regular basis, the best thing in their lives ought to be drugs, because I'm not sure what you can do that'd give you more pleasure than the artificial dopamine dispensers that you poison your bodies with. You cannot even think of a life in which a person who had stayed clean can be "happy" and occupied.

Not much it would seem and your education system is lacking. Worse than the USA I would wager.

Our education system lacks in many areas. Which areas do you specifically refer to?

Man... There are TONS of very well educated and intelligent people who fall into addiction. The thought that addiction is limited to those of low social standing is simply and irrefutably false.

I'm not limiting addiction to the lower classes. But I'm saying is that drug addictions mostly run rampart in the lower classes of society.
For example, you don't go to a suburban middle class neighborhood to buy your drugs, instead you go to either a lower class neighborhood, or a place in the city where all classes can be found.

This is due to the fact that drug-dealing is in itself the profession of a lower class person, and that drug addicts usually live in the neighborhoods where the dealers have camped in.
Drug addictions are mostly a problem of lower classes. The fact that there are drug addicts that come from higher social standings does not change that fact.

Every single study I've seen on this subject where marijuana was included as a treatment option says that marijuana is one of the best drugs to combat this debilitating disorder.

Well, not the plant itself, but the THC inside. If THC is such a potent chemical that can be used to treat psychological illnesses, it can be put into the form of pills, injections and other things, things that do not have the impurities which you draw into your lungs when you smoke marijuana through bongs, cigarettes and etc.

And finally, one doesn't need a drug to focus on themselves.

Some people do.
I personally have used toluene for that end.

Actually, addiction isn't about focusing on oneself, it's a way of AVOIDING oneself,

Well, I think it's quite the opposite when one thinks in terms of psychological addiction.
You cannot avoid yourself, nor your responsibilities. They'll eventually find you. However, drugs are quite well a method to avoid thinking about them.
When you don't think about them, you mostly think of yourself.

one's emotions, and forgetting undesirable events or aspects of oneself.

My experiences, of course, they're mine, not everyone's, have been quite the reverse. When I'm on drugs, I'm very emotional, and tend to become emotional when I think of undesirable events, whereas while sober, I might not have reacted in such ways.