The paradox of acceptance vs rejection in secular settings

[genkaus]

What you're saying doesn't seem to make sense. You're saying the women is wrong for feeling rejected? You're saying that there's only one way to be secular and it's your way?

I don't think any of this is valid.

I think it's better to make secularism more comforting and accepting towards all kinds of people, especially Muslims.

I'm saying that it's not them being rejected, it's their ultra-conservative values that are and they are taking it personally. I'm saying that the only way secularism can be more comforting to those kind of people is by sacrificing its own core values that are in direct conflict to theirs. These women are not actually being rejected - they feel rejected because in a secular environment they have to come across a variety of liberal attitudes that make them uncomfortable and the only way of making them more comfortable would be by actively rejecting these values - which would go against the principle of secularism itself.

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If you ask me, all religiously based holidays should be taken on vacation time, not mandated by the government

Nooooooo...... That's the only aspect of religion that I actually like. Days off apart from vacation time.