(September 9, 2012 at 5:41 am)apophenia Wrote: You know, I've heard that statistic about atheists in prisons and I don't think that it really proves anything. All that proves is that atheists are better at avoiding getting caught. Which makes sense. When you spend your whole life living in sin, you're bound to be better at it than the amateur from the other side of the fence who occasionally crosses over.
I would agree it's important to avoid falling into the pitfall of assuming correlation proves causation. Other factors can always be at work.
Classic example is the rate of violent crime and ice cream sales. Both go up in the summer. A careless consumer of statistics might jump to the conclusion that ice cream consumption causes violent criminal activity.
Better statistics, because they involve a larger and more diverse population sample, are the health of societies as a whole when they are secular. Social studies have been done to show how secular Europe or Japan are happier and have fewer social problems for their lack of religion. In the US, "blue" states are also better off than "red" religious states.
There is no statistical evidence that atheism leads to moral bankruptcy.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist