(September 9, 2012 at 12:59 pm)Haydn Wrote: I think we're veering off topic here a bit mate .
It wasn't if you actually understood the point I was making

Quote:I don't think is worth debating over how essential bin men are , but im guessing they are quite important.
Dude, the point is not about bin men, the point is precisely that it doesn't bloody matter what you consider an essential job. You're getting hung up on the examples I'm using rather than getting the point.
Quote:I have no interest in telling people what they should do for a living
Then why would you hold the position that prostitution be illegal? Rather than regulated and legal?
To me, outlawing something is intending to control what people do. Now it's necessary for things like murder and rape sure (the reasons should be obvious), but if you're saying you don't care that people are prostitutes why is there the need to control it?
I'm not hearing any reasons other than your preconceptions of what prostitution entails.
Quote:but i'd advise against things like drug dealer etc.
Well, I think drugs should be legal across the board, but I guess that really is veering off topic.
Quote:My stance is that i don't think prostitution should be legal , because i think it is damaging to the indivdual.
Alcohol is damaging to the individual, but that is legal.
Smoking is damaging to the individual, but that is also legal.
I'm afraid something being 'dangerous' to the individual really has no significant bearing on whether it is legal or not (although the governments would like you to think so).
Quote:Yes i've read this ( accounts from ex-hookers etc) perhaps they were lieing , or perhaps it was someone posing as a hooker , i don't know for sure .
Perhaps they were simply telling the truth and their experiences of prostitution were actually quite positive. Just because what people say doesn't conform to your preconceptions doesn't mean they're lying. Either way it doesn't matter.
Quote:And can i assume that those who agree with legalistion have looked broadly into the after effects of prostitution on the individual? What were thier sources , did they read it?
Not quite sure what your point is here. Again, whether it's dangerous or not, is irrelevant to whether it should be legal. It's a question of freedom of choice in my opinion, not whether a nannying state has the right to tell you not to do something because it might be dangerous.
Quote:I said ''i can't see how legalsiation is a good thing'' . Thats true , because i can't , so im unsure of your point.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_incredulity
Maybe you did just intend it as a statement and nothing more, however it's still very much an argument from incredulity IMHO.
Quote:Again im against the legalistion of prostitution because i think it is damaging to the individual . I just don't understand why you think that is irrational and why my lack of interest in porn is related.
Lol, alright let's forget the porn thing that's going nowhere.
I find it irrational because you're basically saying:
It's dangerous to individual --> it should be illegal
Perhaps I've assumed that you would like to live in a free world too readily, but if you value freedom then this kind of thinking surely goes against those values?