According to a guy I was seeing recently, in his work online in various forums and on wikipedia as a volunteer, people with feminine sounding nicks or women whose nicks id'd them as women were three times as likely to get harassed, bullied or insulted. I was accused of a lack of empathy, as at the time he and I were having a conversation I didn't express myself as well as I would have liked to in regards to the whole thing.
Believe me, this problem stems from way further back than just Elevatorgate. I have some friends in the skeptic movement who have dealt with her histrionics, and the bullying of the skepchicks, for some time - men AND women who became disillusioned.
Do I think sexism and misogyny are a problem? Absolutely: but I think they're a HUMAN problem. No one ever promised that atheists were going to be rational people - we've had several members fly through here who embodied the essence of irrationality and were stout atheists. I've heard that sexism and misogyny are a bigger problem in the skepticism movement because it's mostly made up of geeks who have no social skills. Unfortunately, I've not heard of any complaints from people outside of reports from the skepchicks. On the other hand, I don't spend my day looking this shit up either. I'd love to see one blog post from outside the skepchick realm surface describing how these conferences aren't safe, that women suffer horrible things there - all the things the skepchicks claim to happen. I even emailed assault and harrasment victim counselors to ask if they could forward a list of things we could do to ensure that at least the gatherings were safe.
The problem, when I boil it down - and I'm open to rebuttals - is that 1) these women have no sense of humor, 2) they act as if everything that comes out of a man's mouth is expected to be accepted and done, and 3) they allow themselves to get worked up into a lather and lose sight of the original argument and goal. Oh, and 4) they seem to think no one should suffer the slightest discomfort - or at least, women never should. I got news for you, cupcake.
Believe me, this problem stems from way further back than just Elevatorgate. I have some friends in the skeptic movement who have dealt with her histrionics, and the bullying of the skepchicks, for some time - men AND women who became disillusioned.
Do I think sexism and misogyny are a problem? Absolutely: but I think they're a HUMAN problem. No one ever promised that atheists were going to be rational people - we've had several members fly through here who embodied the essence of irrationality and were stout atheists. I've heard that sexism and misogyny are a bigger problem in the skepticism movement because it's mostly made up of geeks who have no social skills. Unfortunately, I've not heard of any complaints from people outside of reports from the skepchicks. On the other hand, I don't spend my day looking this shit up either. I'd love to see one blog post from outside the skepchick realm surface describing how these conferences aren't safe, that women suffer horrible things there - all the things the skepchicks claim to happen. I even emailed assault and harrasment victim counselors to ask if they could forward a list of things we could do to ensure that at least the gatherings were safe.
The problem, when I boil it down - and I'm open to rebuttals - is that 1) these women have no sense of humor, 2) they act as if everything that comes out of a man's mouth is expected to be accepted and done, and 3) they allow themselves to get worked up into a lather and lose sight of the original argument and goal. Oh, and 4) they seem to think no one should suffer the slightest discomfort - or at least, women never should. I got news for you, cupcake.
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