RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
September 11, 2012 at 5:17 pm
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2012 at 5:18 pm by YahwehIsTheWay.)
(September 11, 2012 at 4:49 pm)Undeceived Wrote:(September 11, 2012 at 1:45 am)apophenia Wrote: I thought the following library of essays might be of general interest to readers of this thread.As moral. As moral as theists, based on theistic morals? Where else might atheists get this standard of morality? From society, perhaps, which borrows almost exclusively from Christianity. Sure you can abide by Christianity's morals, and many atheists do. But by definition of evolution you have no objective morals. You are simply imitating culture to be accepted by culture. In the process, you validate Christian ethics as the most acceptable, tossing out one or two (such as adultery, abortion) to suit your own personal whims. Perhaps by 'having morals' you mean being generally good to other human beings. Yet according to evolution there is no good, just survival. Your 'good' is done out of self-interest. If you truly were altruistic, you'd contradict survival of the fittest. Why should anyone be impressed you can imitate out of self-interest? A monkey can do that. Moral atheism is an oxymoron unless the atheist defines a moral his own way. In such a case, what good is a subjective moral? Why should anyone be impressed that you can create your own idea of right and wrong? A monkey can do that too. Without altruism, ethics is just an act.
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Well done, fellow Christian!
Just keep hitting the "reset" button and repeat the same conversation over and over until we "win" when the hellbound heathen trash gets tired and goes home.
I mean, Sweet Jesus, how many times has this very argument been presented, debunked, represented, debunked again and presented again, practically word-for-freaking-word, over and over in just this thread alone?
Argumentum Ad Neuseum, definitely one of my favorite fallac... styles of theistic argument.
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