RE: Where do atheists get their morality from?
September 13, 2012 at 7:58 am
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2012 at 8:06 am by Angrboda.)
@grene: No, I don't happen to think Vinny is an actual atheist, but I don't really give a shit. Anybody, atheist or theist, is free to make whatever argument they want and be judged on the merits of the case they present. This isn't a theistic, tribal society where they must present the correct shibboleth before they are accepted in. Your repeated raising the question of whether Vinny is an atheist is both badgering and a personal attack and frankly I'm sick of your shit. Everybody here is free to follow the dictates of their conscience and ye shall know them by their fruits. It's none of your fucking business. You aren't the forum police. Thankfully that job is already in competent hands.
And now in my anger, I've forgotten one of my points. Oh yeah.
@Undeceived:
As a Christian, who is not supposed to bear false witness, tell me truthfully, how many of the essays on the page I referenced did you actually read before dismissing them all as being inadequate and posting your rejection of them? I'm betting that the honest answer to the question is zero. But I'll let you tell us (or lie to us, as there's nothing to prevent you here.... is there?).
My more substantial question to you is, if indeed God has created morality, and fashioned us as creatures with a moral sense, just exactly how did he do it? Obviously, there were moral societies before the bible, and moral people who are completely unfamiliar with the bible, so obviously it couldn't be that his main way of communicating a moral sense was the bible. Do you suppose, perhaps, that he designed us to have a moral sense, naturally, say by programming it in our genes? If so, how do we tell the difference between morality being written in our genes because God designed us that way, and morality being in our genes as a result of evolution? And if morality isn't in the bible or in our genes, then how do we get this morality from God? (Show your work. No, "I don't know. He works in mysterious ways." You've made the claim that morality flows from God to man. Now all you have to do is demonstrate how. Should be a cinch for someone who is Undeceived...)