[quote='Cinjin' pid='337769' dateline='1347938448']
[quote]Lying and gossiping are rude but not necessarily sin.[/quote]According to whom? Your personal version of Morality? If so then know I will bow out of this conversation as i will not dispute that. But if your saying God does not declare these sin to be sin then you are.. Mistaken. Christ identified gossip and lying as two of the greatest sins. ( would normally provide the verses but I know how much hate that.)
[quote]Neither is lusting or hating someone. [/quote]Christ tells us those two are like commiting adultry and Murder.
[quote] If I lie to my grandmother and tell her that I'm not playing football because she's afraid I'll get hurt but play football anyway did I sin? [/quote]According to God Yes.
[quote]If I hate Hitler for killing my great grandfather did I sin? [/quote]According to God yes.
[quote]If I lust after women, it's because I was created with a drive to procreate. [/quote]Just because you are driven to do something doesn't make it any less sinful when you do it.
[quote] None of those things are sin and even if they are in your little world, I'm still not making an "excuse" to commit them.[/quote]
Again no one needs an excuse to sin. we are hard wired to sin. In this there is no freedom of Choice/Free Will.
[quote]Lying and gossiping are rude but not necessarily sin.[/quote]According to whom? Your personal version of Morality? If so then know I will bow out of this conversation as i will not dispute that. But if your saying God does not declare these sin to be sin then you are.. Mistaken. Christ identified gossip and lying as two of the greatest sins. ( would normally provide the verses but I know how much hate that.)
[quote]Neither is lusting or hating someone. [/quote]Christ tells us those two are like commiting adultry and Murder.
[quote] If I lie to my grandmother and tell her that I'm not playing football because she's afraid I'll get hurt but play football anyway did I sin? [/quote]According to God Yes.
[quote]If I hate Hitler for killing my great grandfather did I sin? [/quote]According to God yes.
[quote]If I lust after women, it's because I was created with a drive to procreate. [/quote]Just because you are driven to do something doesn't make it any less sinful when you do it.
[quote] None of those things are sin and even if they are in your little world, I'm still not making an "excuse" to commit them.[/quote]
Again no one needs an excuse to sin. we are hard wired to sin. In this there is no freedom of Choice/Free Will.