(September 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm)Drich Wrote:(September 19, 2012 at 1:44 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Ok Drich, what about people whom never came across the message of the gospels? What would their path of redemption be?:^) is it your belief that a cermony or a specific version of Christianity is indeed Christianity? Meaning all of the followers of that brand of christianity is indeed Christian? If so which one, and what of all who don't follow that version?
In the End the writter of Hebrews tell us that we are all going to be rightly divided and judged (the Christian and non Christian alike) and our personal proclaimations have little to do with our eternal status. It is our hearts that are judged, and our motivies will be all laid bare to which we will have to give an account. For the 'Christian' it is not a matter of proclaimation that saves him it is a matter of attonement offered, accepted and approved by Christ. To the one who has not been offered, you can put your mind at ease that he too will be judged in the same way. For the same blood that saves a man when he accepts Christ, and condemns a man when he refuses Christ covers all of those who never knew Christ. Meaning God doesn't need us to live 70 years of our lives to accuratly judge us. He knew us before we were born. Our lives are for us to know and accept His final judgement. God will judge them in every aspect of their lives accuratly and fairly.
My question wasn't about being saved or not, I'm asking how would they redeem themselves.
In the case of Christians, you are saying willingly accepting redemption from God through Jesus Christ Sacrifice, is redeeming your sins.
I'm asking how people whom didn't have a chance to accept the gospel, how would they redeem themselves. Not whether they are saved or not.
If you state that you don't have to believe in Christ to be redeemed by Christ, then why doesn't that apply to those whom heard the gospel but were not convinced it's true?
Also, in that case, tell me exactly how they are redeemed from their sins?
And why isn't DeistPaladin suggestion that we try to become better humans, not enough of a redemption?
