Why Does Atheism and Left-Wing Politics Usually Go Together?

[Tiberius]

and what are they rewarded with? AND WHAT MAKES A PERSON LAZY? Why are you not lazy? do you attribute it to your race your upbringing, your nation's culture? What is it that seperates YOU from THEM, what makes you a better person from birth?

In a communist society, those that refuse to work are still looked after by the society. They are rewarded with food, etc. A person can quite happily do nothing and still get to eat, since the distribution of food and supplies in communism is based on needs, not on who has earned it.

In capitalism, the distribution is based on how much work you put in. Work hard, and you get more. Be successful, and you get more. The only help that slackers get would be from charities (though I suspect not many charities would support known work-avoiders).

What makes a person lazy? No idea. I'm not including people with mental health problems who are made lazy by their illness. I'm talking about people who make an active choice not to go and work.

Why am I not lazy? A few reasons:
- I don't like having to depend on other people (I'd rather help myself).
- I like working.
- I like enjoying things, which in this society requires money, and work gets me money.

Nothing to do with race, culture, or my upbringing (no race or culture survives if it is inherently lazy). I never said I was a better person from birth. A person may become lazy over time.

if it wasn't for your country's "labour party" you'd be your king's personal slave............

Explain...

........... libertarians beleive everyone should have the "freedom" to be a slave

Indeed, if the slave in question actively chose to be a slave, then Libertarianism would allow it. There is a massive difference between these kinds of slaves and the traditional image of slavery. Any slave under a Libertarian government would still hold all their rights, and would at any time be able to stop being a slave if they changed their mind. In reality, they are a slave in name only. The state would always support the right to own your own body, so even if you state that it is owned by another person, the state would support you if you wanted to own your own body again.

since you seem to know more about communism than karl marx why don't you explain what a "successful" communist nation would look like, how would you measure its success, would you measure by how much natural resources that coountry has? how much capital it has?

I never said I know more about communism than karl marx. Indeed, I thought the entire point of this conversation was for you to convince me of communism? Anyway, a "successful" communist nation would be one which adheres to the ideology of communism. It would be classless, moneyless, and stateless.

no you cannot if your country has embrago placed on it it's citizen cannot purchase whatever is a part of that embargo.

I'm talking about in general, a US citizen is allowed to buy a barrel of oil. The same cannot be said for North Koreans. Government control over an economy can be measured by how many restrictions a government places on its own citizens in terms of what they can buy. The trade decisions of other nations does not form part of the measurement.

so let's say I go your house with a gun and force you family to not eat food for 3 days.......... then I call the neighbor's and tell them "look at how horrible this man treats his family look there starving!" then you say "hey you held us hostage and forced us to starve at gun point", and all the neighbor's do is call you a liar.

Not sure I understand what your analogy is even meant to be about. Please explain.

The US is still at war with North Korea, why don't you put down, the ron paul youtube conspiracy video's and do some actual research about global politics

Ok, first off I'm not watching ron paul conspiracy videos. I do my own research into global politics. Whether the US is still at war with North Korea is complete irrelevant to the fact that North Korea's economy is government controlled.

The American Libertarian movement is a white supremacist movement, I've told you this, I've shown you a mountain evidence, and you still REFUSE to beleive. Why?.....and don't ask me for more fucking evidence

Oh, you mean the mountain of evidence which you promised but were never able to actually present? Your evidence involved equating "Ron Paul" with "every Libertarian", and "Neo-confederates" with "White supremacists". Both are false equivocations; definitions are not so black and white.

You have yet to present actual evidence of Ron Paul speaking at that Nazi rally which you promised repeatedly. All you did was present videos of him speaking about state's rights to secede (in itself, not a racist thing at all). On the other hand, I can present numerous videos of Ron Paul talking about the unfair discrimination against black people, and how as President he would help, as well as testimony from black and interracial couples whom he helped whilst he was a doctor.

So, why do I still refuse to believe? Because you haven't actually presented any evidence that validates your claim. Your claim is that Ron Paul and the Libertarian movement is a white supremacist movement. Evidence that validated that claim would show directly that this was the case. Showing that Ron Paul will stand for photos with racists, even assuming he knew how they were, is not evidence of that. Showing that Ron Paul will talk about state's rights to succede in front of neo-confederates, is not evidence of that either. Provide the evidence you promised and I'll believe you.