it`s not hard to see the difference between this
![[Image: auch-in-den-usa-sind-rechtsextreme-aktiv...uters-.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=bilder.t-online.de%2Fb%2F46%2F40%2F11%2F88%2Fid_46401188%2Ftid_da%2Fauch-in-den-usa-sind-rechtsextreme-aktiv-das-zeigen-sie-auch-mit-hakenkreuz-und-hitlergruss-foto-reuters-.jpg)
and this:
![[Image: rechtsradikal-demo-540x304.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=images.zeit.de%2Fgesellschaft%2Fzeitgeschehen%2F2011-11%2Frechtsradikal-demo%2Frechtsradikal-demo-540x304.jpg)
while yours pose with symbols ours try to distance themselves from the old image and to create a new "democratic" image.
There is a reason why we have anti-totalitarian laws here, wich forbid the forming of organisations wich have as a goal, the overthrowal of the republic. These laws are inforced specialy by "the bureau for the protection of the constitution" (Verfassungsschutz).
running arround a german street - demanding the violent overthrowal of democracy can get you between 10 to 15 years in jail.
And this is not just concerning fashist organisations but every single totalitarian movement.
But eaven if you officialy pose as democratic, and it turns out that the core of your movement is undemocratic - you`ll end up with trouble.
A guy like Anjem Chaudery would end up in jail in germany.
some people might say that this hinders free speech - i think free speech has it`s limits.
And considering how democratic the german sociaty is, and how little public support radical movements have here, some of my friends, and to a extend I, would go so far as to say that we are the only european nation wich has learned the lessons to be learned out of world war 2.
Just look at Hungary! The Jobbik had a 12% vote in the last hungarian election. remember this is a officialy antisemetic and fashist party!
During the second world war, especialy catholic countries such as Hungary, Croatia, Austria, Italy, Ukrain, and various other countries supported fashism.
Whilest germany tried to learn the lessons out of it`s history, these nations simply (sometimes in a grotesk way( austria claims to be the first official victim of fashism)) blame everything on germany and neglegt that their countries had fashist movements that participated in not only the war, but also to some extent in crimes against humanity.
And today the "ghosts" of these movements still spook arround in these countries.
Yes it was mainly germanys fault! that is undeniable!
But neighter can one denie how, especialy in catholic europe fashism was widespread:
Historic Examples of fashism outside of nazi germany between 1930 to 1945:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Paveli%C4%87
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueshirts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratnik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Fascist_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Antonescu
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_H%C3%A1cha
and especialy imbarresing for the catholic church, and oftern denied by them:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jozef_Tiso
![[Image: auch-in-den-usa-sind-rechtsextreme-aktiv...uters-.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=bilder.t-online.de%2Fb%2F46%2F40%2F11%2F88%2Fid_46401188%2Ftid_da%2Fauch-in-den-usa-sind-rechtsextreme-aktiv-das-zeigen-sie-auch-mit-hakenkreuz-und-hitlergruss-foto-reuters-.jpg)
and this:
![[Image: rechtsradikal-demo-540x304.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=images.zeit.de%2Fgesellschaft%2Fzeitgeschehen%2F2011-11%2Frechtsradikal-demo%2Frechtsradikal-demo-540x304.jpg)
while yours pose with symbols ours try to distance themselves from the old image and to create a new "democratic" image.
There is a reason why we have anti-totalitarian laws here, wich forbid the forming of organisations wich have as a goal, the overthrowal of the republic. These laws are inforced specialy by "the bureau for the protection of the constitution" (Verfassungsschutz).
running arround a german street - demanding the violent overthrowal of democracy can get you between 10 to 15 years in jail.
And this is not just concerning fashist organisations but every single totalitarian movement.
But eaven if you officialy pose as democratic, and it turns out that the core of your movement is undemocratic - you`ll end up with trouble.
A guy like Anjem Chaudery would end up in jail in germany.
some people might say that this hinders free speech - i think free speech has it`s limits.
And considering how democratic the german sociaty is, and how little public support radical movements have here, some of my friends, and to a extend I, would go so far as to say that we are the only european nation wich has learned the lessons to be learned out of world war 2.
Just look at Hungary! The Jobbik had a 12% vote in the last hungarian election. remember this is a officialy antisemetic and fashist party!
During the second world war, especialy catholic countries such as Hungary, Croatia, Austria, Italy, Ukrain, and various other countries supported fashism.
Whilest germany tried to learn the lessons out of it`s history, these nations simply (sometimes in a grotesk way( austria claims to be the first official victim of fashism)) blame everything on germany and neglegt that their countries had fashist movements that participated in not only the war, but also to some extent in crimes against humanity.
And today the "ghosts" of these movements still spook arround in these countries.
Yes it was mainly germanys fault! that is undeniable!
But neighter can one denie how, especialy in catholic europe fashism was widespread:
Historic Examples of fashism outside of nazi germany between 1930 to 1945:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ante_Paveli%C4%87
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_Cross_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Franco
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blueshirts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rexism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratnik
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usta%C5%A1e
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Fascist_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_Antonescu
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_H%C3%A1cha
and especialy imbarresing for the catholic church, and oftern denied by them:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jozef_Tiso