RE: Neo-Nazis Fly Under Radar
October 11, 2012 at 12:56 pm
(This post was last modified: October 11, 2012 at 1:01 pm by Something completely different.)
(October 11, 2012 at 12:00 pm)LastPoet Wrote: Hmmm, Portugal doesn't have a fascist seat on the parliament. We do have a shit load of fuckwits there anyhow. We do have an extreme right wing party, but it doesn't have enough votes for a seat. They are dumbasses anyway.
I honestly and shamefully have no idea on Portugal.
After the "Estado Novo" collapsed on the first of may 1974 - did the following democratic goverment give a amnesty to the participants of the former regime such as the PIDE? If yes or no, is there a current political party in Portugal wich resembels "Salazars political herritage"?
and if yes are they as present in the portugese sociaty as in Spain, Italy and Hungary?
(October 11, 2012 at 12:00 pm)LastPoet Wrote: You know, if we ever really unite europe, this bloody continent, surely won't be by dictatorship.
I dont think that eighter, nor do I believe that a fashist movement will gain power within the next years (exept for maybe Hungary). But it is a truely shamefull site that more than sixty years after the 2nd world war, 38 years after the last "old fashist" regimes fell (Franco, Spain, Salazar, Portugal) and 12 years after the last "neo-fashist" european dictator fell (Slobodan Milosevic, Serbia), with currently only one dictator left in europe (Lukashenko, Belarus).
we still have fashist movements.
(October 11, 2012 at 12:46 pm)Stue Denim Wrote: How can 'free speech' have limits, and still be 'free'? It would be, by definition, 'limited speech', no?
So it's not that there is less support for these groups, it's that there are laws against them? Makes the results much less impressive to be honest.
There is hardly any support for them, because otherwise they would be in parlament. Actualy, at almoust every neo-fashist event in germany the turnout of counterprotesters is larger than the fashists.
Yes, our country is very democratic.
free speech ends if you incite violents, i grew up with this law, and i have always agreed with it.
(October 11, 2012 at 12:46 pm)Stue Denim Wrote: And isn't the banning of undemocratic movements itself an undemocratic thing to do?
no it is not, it is to protect the democracy. i dont have tolerance with intolerance.