(October 17, 2012 at 8:39 am)Drich Wrote:(October 16, 2012 at 10:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I don't care how closely you look at fucking "luke"
"Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph, the son of Heli,"
There is nothing in there about fucking "mary."
Besides...jospeh was just the cuckold. Your myths claim that god fucked her.
In an offical document Mary could not be directly mentioned by name. If she were then it would have indicated that Christ was born out of the confines of a santified marriage.
That is why the geneology starts with: "(as was supposed) the son of Joseph, the son of Heli," What was Heli? was it a man? Or was it a title/a way to bring Mary legally into this geneology.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexi...2242&t=KJV
As you can see it's not a person's name. It is a title denoting Joseph's position as the head of this house which allows Luke to tie marry legitmatly to this geneology. This is further pronounced by the two words
ὡς hōs
νομίζω nomizō
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm...JV#conc/23
which we translate to "As was supposed" (the son of Joseph.) So in this one verse Luke discredits or brings doubt to the genetic line of Joseph, and finds away to introduce Marry's genelogy into the story.
In other words, the Mary geneaology was counted "in" Joseph and under his headship.
Wow man.... that made no sense at all.
Good apologetics there mate. Appearing to address the question whilst being no where near it.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.