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God's Value Nonexistent?
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RE: God's Value Nonexistent?
Quote:By 'god' you mean 'revelation', and by 'revelation' I mean either a mental disorder, shocking self delusion, or just plain making it up. I mean, how can the church decide which books are canonical, and which aren't? How can they admit that some are made up and still defend others?
No, not really. I'm just saying that like talking to God in it's true form, where he can, with his omnipotent powers, make you understand everything, he doesn't even have to face you, or speak to you in his own voice, if he has one.
Of course, if you do not have access to an audition with God in this manner, you have to rely on scripture, written by people who claim that they did. And if you see something that is extraordinary in those words, you believe them.

Besides, it's not just a matter of christianity.
Many religions did not go through the crap that the Christian churches went through when they had to scrap a holy book from various accounts that differ from eachother.

Quote:Using my above definition of 'getting answers from god', then yeah.
Same thing, friend. You want answers from God? Can't talk to him in person? You have to get them from somewhere, provided that you believe in his existence.
Quote:They believe in it, so it matters to them. We are discussing a concept, but do not think it is real. The theists do think it is real, that is the difference. For us it's "if a god existed, what value would he have, and how would he get it?" The theistic version would simply omit the if. (I know the sentence would be unweildy, but you know what I mean)
And I'm saying that it's meaningless to discuss a concept in which answers are only sought if you actually believe in that concept's truth.

Like if you ask a question "what if God existed", the only answers that you get will be a projection of what you would want God to be.
In other words, you yourself envision yourself as a "creator of the creator". Quite a paradox, if you ask me.
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God's Value Nonexistent? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 19, 2012 at 8:06 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Aroura - October 19, 2012 at 8:08 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 19, 2012 at 8:12 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Darkstar - October 19, 2012 at 8:19 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by MysticKnight - October 19, 2012 at 10:58 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by IATIA - October 20, 2012 at 1:34 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Aroura - October 20, 2012 at 3:49 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by MysticKnight - October 20, 2012 at 4:36 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Darkstar - October 20, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by MysticKnight - October 20, 2012 at 2:51 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Godschild - October 19, 2012 at 11:16 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Darkstar - October 19, 2012 at 11:55 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 20, 2012 at 12:03 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Cato - October 20, 2012 at 3:07 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by MysticKnight - October 20, 2012 at 4:03 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Cyberman - October 20, 2012 at 1:23 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Tea Earl Grey Hot - October 20, 2012 at 3:06 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Cyberman - October 20, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2012 at 4:30 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by downbeatplumb - October 20, 2012 at 4:45 am
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by kılıç_mehmet - October 20, 2012 at 3:04 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2012 at 3:06 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by kılıç_mehmet - October 20, 2012 at 3:11 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2012 at 3:23 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by kılıç_mehmet - October 20, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Darkstar - October 20, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2012 at 3:33 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by kılıç_mehmet - October 20, 2012 at 3:43 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2012 at 3:49 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by MysticKnight - October 20, 2012 at 3:54 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by kılıç_mehmet - October 20, 2012 at 4:02 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Darkstar - October 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by kılıç_mehmet - October 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Darkstar - October 20, 2012 at 5:13 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by The Grand Nudger - October 20, 2012 at 4:45 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Drich - October 21, 2012 at 3:36 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by IATIA - October 21, 2012 at 3:40 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Drich - October 21, 2012 at 11:11 pm
RE: God's Value Nonexistent? - by Darkstar - October 21, 2012 at 11:35 pm

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