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An era of matriarchy?
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RE: An era of matriarchy?
(October 21, 2012 at 12:26 pm)Ciel_Rouge Wrote: I have even read of more recent matriarchical societies but they were isolated and not very large, some tribes in Siberia or something like that.
Matriarchal, matrifocul, or at least more egalitarian societies do show up from time to time.

Quote:Regarding kings, I read that in the ancient middle east kings wore fake boobies which seems like a relic of an era where rulers were naturally female.
Why does it seem like that?

Quote:Besides, we DID have successful female rulers like Elisabeth, Catherine the Great or... Angela Merkel Big Grin So women are capable of ruling or even having authoritarian and absolute power, it is just social suppression that prevents that.
Of course they're capable.

Quote:Is there any inherent reason to hate women? Unless you have a bunch of men who are fed up of suppression under matriarchy...
None that I can see, but I don't see any reason to suppose suppression under matriarchy either. It might be useful to note that those societies which we do point at as being somewhat ambiguously matriarchal arising before say, the bronze age, don't seem to be much different from societies that were unambiguously patriarchal. They waged war, aggressively secured territory, men participated in all of this. Cultures which we have found clear indications of a sort of "feminine trend" in what we assume to be their artifacts of spirituality were still often patriarchal.

Quote:Furthermore, the usual pasiveness and submission of women is a learned trait. If you look at little girls many of them or even the majority are NOT submissive, to the contrary - they seem quite dominant and defiant. Only the subsequent social repression and "role models" change that. So the idea that women have been always tread upon since prehistory seems like catchy propaganda and nothing more.
Who said anything about being tread upon?

Quote:If we go beyond 3000 or 5000 BCE we still have thousands if not tens of thousands of years of history and plenty of room for exotic social and political configurations.
Sure do, but whatever room there may have been does not seem to have been filled by an era of matriarchy.

:late edit: Personally, I think that the groundwork for an era of matriarchy is much better laid now than at any point in our past in any case. Maybe someday someone will dig up our descendants and find it, just hasn't happened yet as far as we can tell.
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An era of matriarchy? - by Ciel_Rouge - October 21, 2012 at 12:26 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by kılıç_mehmet - October 21, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by Ciel_Rouge - October 21, 2012 at 12:56 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by Anomalocaris - October 21, 2012 at 1:31 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by Ciel_Rouge - October 21, 2012 at 2:24 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2012 at 1:42 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2012 at 2:33 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by Ciel_Rouge - October 21, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2012 at 4:01 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by Ciel_Rouge - October 21, 2012 at 5:38 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by The Grand Nudger - October 21, 2012 at 9:12 pm
RE: An era of matriarchy? - by Ciel_Rouge - October 22, 2012 at 8:08 am

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