RE: Boy kicked out of scouts for refusing to swear allegiance to god
October 21, 2012 at 1:13 pm
(October 21, 2012 at 11:10 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: As if I've missed anything extraordinary by not living in America,No, but from this and other posts it's obvious that you simply don't know much about America. America has no 'official language' although English is most common, including laws ect. But there are areas of America with street name signs in Chinese or Korean, and there are over 35 million people in America who speak Spanish at home (compared to 6-7m Turkish/Kurdish in Germany). America is not very integrated sadly, and even after many generations people still identify with their overseas origin, "Boston Irish", "Italian" etc. Although I guess everything is relative. I know people from maybe 10 or 20 "communities" in America.
(October 21, 2012 at 11:10 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Intermarriage does not end conflicts at all. Here we are, in Germany, where Turks and Germans do intermarry. And what do we have? Nothing. In truth, we have even more conflict. Turkish men marry German women, and after a while, the women take away the kids to live with their own, so that they do not become "Turkish like their father", as if they could become true Germans with the Turkish blood in their veins.a) What about Turkish women marry German guys? b) What part of being Turkish are the German girls not approving off with regards to raising kids?
You are living in one of the more racist countries in Europe, where your ethnicity is at the sharp end of racist right-wing nationalism and yet you are using this fact to advocate your own right-wing nationalism. The mind boggles. Sadly you are not so alone, according to Wikipedia:
"In recent years, the Turkish minority has shown an increased tendency to segregation and radical views.[104] According to a representative 2012 survey, 72% of the Turks in Germany believe that Islam is the only true religion, 62% prefer social contacts only to fellow Turks, 46% wish that one day more Muslims live in Germany than Christians, 25% think atheists are inferior human beings, 18% believe Jews are inferior human beings, and 51% believe that homosexuality is a sickness"
(October 21, 2012 at 11:10 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Often, religions here actually encourage mixing. To be honest, you can see the islamists at the front of the "brotherhood between moslems", encouraging moslems of different ethnicities to intermarry.Do they advocate marrying outside of Islam? again, what about Muslim girls marrying atheists, jews, christians, hindus....
(October 21, 2012 at 11:10 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Religion and politics derived from religion are always against nationalism, and tend to confirm with ideologies like humanism that dreams of uniting mankind. Under that context, I've always labeled politics that derive from religion as left-wing, as they are international, compared to right-wing politics focusing their efforts on a national level.I'm sorry but you are so mistaken. Ever heard of Franco, Mussolini, Aryan Nation/White power et al, Popular Orthodox Rally (Greek Nationalists),... and there are many many many more examples.
(October 21, 2012 at 11:10 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Besides, the reason you don't care whether a restaurant serves X-food is due to your lack of sophistication and callousness in terms of culinary pursuits, which has nothing to do with multi-culturalism or anything that relates to it. Culture is beyond food.Lol. What do you know about my experience of food? Bit low.
(October 21, 2012 at 11:10 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: But since the only contact that you Americansvery presumptuous, I'm not American.
(October 21, 2012 at 11:10 am)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: This is what happens in America. When I immigrate to America, I'm asked to leave behind my previous identity for a new one. I become one with the new identity which tells me to discard my culture and tongue, and fully assimilate into the new one. Unless I live in one of the ethnic enclaves of immigrants that every country has nowadays, I have no other choice but to do so.Again, you evidently know virtually nothing about America. What have you been spun about Turkish community in America?
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