For good people to do bad things...

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

First, as I have argued previously, that fallacy is committed only when there is an ad hoc shifting of the goal posts,

Perhaps I've misunderstood the NTF: my interpretation is that it's a self sealing fallacy wherein the proponent misuses a definition which has been clearly established to mean something else to make a point..

In this case you are using an argument from authority to claim that 'Christian' has a clear catholic (ahem) and unambiguous meaning,it does not. For goodness sake Christians can't even agree amongst THEMSELVES! No offence ,but [for you] to claim otherwise seems a little disingenuous.


I did not say or mean to imply that the bad behavior of any number of Christians abrogates any moral code.

I DO assert that Christians are just ordinary people; not especially good and not especially bad.Like most ordinary people,they are capable of great good and great evil. Sometimes good people do evil things and sometimes bad people do good things.In my opinion behaviour in extremis rarely defines a person.

My argument was based on historical evidence: That over a thousand years, good Christians have done some very evil things,with the approval and encouragement of their leaders and within personal conscience.

I guess we'll have to agree to differ. That's all I have to say,except that I think you're probably smarter than me,so will usually win an argument. Fortunately for me, I do not conflate losing an argument with being wrong [necessarily]