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Orwell's 1984 and Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 combined?
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RE: Orwell's 1984 and Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 combined?
(November 2, 2012 at 4:36 pm)festive1 Wrote: Johns Hopkins SAIS program, and I was waiting for you to get online. Give me a minute to collect stuff, he sent me a 20 page book outline which I don't think I can post in its entirety.

John Hopkins University is a great school! They won't mind if you post the whole thing just use the hide tag
Quote:Given the pejorative connotations surrounding the label “totalitarian,” it is not only necessary to be precise in its application, but to appreciate its implications. Linz [reference to Juan J. Linz, Totalitarian and Authoritarian Regimes] notes the following characteristics of totalitarianism:
talking about totalitarianism is similair to talking about witchcraft.....in the 1700's yes there are witches and there are people practicing wicca but the word itself has transformed into something completely different from the literal interpretation.

Quote: There is an exclusive, autonomous, and more or less intellectually elaborate ideology with which the ruling group or leader, and the party serving the leaders, identify and which they use as a basis for policies or manipulate to legitimize them.
this defintion suggests that the ideology is only a farce, and the government uses this ideology to trick people, while behaving differently behind the scenes even setting up secret police, while this might be an appropriate defintion for totalitarianism when discussing Marxism, it doesn't account for the US constitution or Mein Kampf, it suggests there was ultimately nothing wrong with Mein Kampf, it was only the "people" who were at fault, it was essentially Hitler's fault, Germany lost because, he himself did not adhere to his own ideology and instead setup secret forces that contridicted his original principles.

This leaves me too believe that fascism is fine as long as you do it right, OR that there is no such thing as fascism, in the first place. He then begins to describe the eritrean secret police as if they are the african KGB of the 21st century, completley leaving out the fact that outside infulences even exist in africa by simpy dimissing the whole country as isolationists, there might not be "international headlines" but there are news reports, that your government chooses not too accept based on "legitamacy concerns" but of course if any child writes an article about "alqueada in eritrea" it will be front page news, but illegal fishing trawlers scraping the eritrean coast or illegally dumping nuclear waste, are completely left out of the discussion because the reports aren't "confirmed"

I hope there's a better argument for totalitarianism in Rwanda because this appears to be saying all mean people are totalitarian, or every leader who doesn't aspire to be like america is a totalitarian despot
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RE: Orwell's 1984 and Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 combined? - by cratehorus - November 2, 2012 at 7:01 pm

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