RE: Backwards nation
November 4, 2012 at 10:20 am
(This post was last modified: November 4, 2012 at 10:30 am by John V.)
(November 3, 2012 at 4:40 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You know, John, you seem a rung or two higher on the ladder than the normal run-of-the-mill fundie we get around here. Maybe you have an idea about a question that I can never get an answer to from the others.First - what obsession? I rarely post on it. The largest Christian church rejects it. Sure, out of a couple billion people you'll get some who focus on it, but overall it's a peripheral issue.
Why the obsession about creationism?
Second - back at you. Why the atheist obsession (if it is that) in creationism? We get lots of unsupported assertions that evolution and age of the universe are vital for all science, but as we've seen, no one can back that up with numbers. On another board an atheist actually said, "If the monkey's not your uncle, the plane doesn't fly." Seems ludicrous to me. Do you think it's impossible for someone to learn aerodynamics if they're a YEC?
Quote:The reports of what jesus said, which is all we have, indicate that he spent no time at all worrying about the creation of the worldConsidering his audience, I doubt there was any reason for him to worry about it. Note though that he did refer to A&E as historical people and the flood as a historical event.
Quote:but he spent lots of time driving "demons" out of sick people. Why isn't the insistence on adding "Demon Driving Out" to medical school courses rather than worrying about stuff that jesus didn't care about?You make a common mistake. He doesn't drive demons out of sick people, he drives them out of demon-possessed people. He healed the diseases of the sick people. The gospels present sick and demon-possessed as two different things numerous times. They do not say that sicknesses are caused by demons. One example:
Mark 1
32 At evening, when the sun had set, they brought to Him all who were sick and those who were demon-possessed. 33 And the whole city was gathered together at the door. 34 Then He healed many who were sick with various diseases, and cast out many demons
Copernicus wasn't persecuted. When the church reviewed his work on heliocentrism, it merely asked that all or parts of nine sentences be altered or removed.
Galileo had a long career before the church put him under house arrest at the age of 70. This was prompted by a dialogue he published which added little or nothing to heliocentrism and was seen by many as being open ridicule of the pope.
(November 4, 2012 at 3:57 am)Aroura Wrote:"Bigotry of all stripes" includes bigotry against the religious.(November 4, 2012 at 2:19 am)Drich Wrote: Appearently not:Although swearing and/or insulting people a lot isn't being NICE, I think when they say "act like real cunts", they mean religious people who use religion to justify racism, child brides, war, murder, and bigotry of all stripes.
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