(November 4, 2012 at 1:48 pm)Aroura Wrote: I never said they were obsessed with it, that was a word you used, not me. Red herring!Actually it was a word Minimalist used IIRC, then I responded to him, and you jumped in and replied to my response. If you guys are going to play tag team like that, I need to assume consistency of position.
Quote:It's irrelevant if they are obsessed with it or not. The point is the fact that 46% of Americans actively disbelieve science. And you don't think this is a factor in the US's declining state of education, technology, medicine, and science??......As noted previously, differing Christian positions are usually only in the area of origins, and origins have not been shown to be a significant driver of America's economy or power.Ok, then.
Quote:This law does not allow creationism to be taught alongside evolution. If that's tried under the law, the law will likely be challenged in court and struck down, as others have been. Until creationists are actually successful in getting it taught in public schools, it's pretty tought to blame them for American decline.That's just 100% innaccurate. It is actually being taught in some public schools in the US. [/quote]
Which ones? How many? What percentage of students are being taught creationism in public schools?
Quote:Evolution in public schoolsHere's a more recent atheist source that says Kentucky doesn't teach creationism. Some lawmakers want it to, which obviously means it doesn't now. Kentucky does teach evolution, though.
There are states that teach the criticisms of evolution, such as Kansas and Ohio. And others who teach Creationism along with evolution, including Kentucky. Colorado and New York are two states that do teach evolution, but it is up to the schools, teachers, and counties on how this subject is taught and portrayed to the students.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/dispatches/2...sm-taught/
Quote:Certainly, when anyone bothers to challenge it in court, they are told to stop, but it isn't always challenged when it happens.Where is it being taught?
Quote:Stop trying to marginalize this issue by pretending it doesn't exist.I'm simply asking for facts rather than unsupported assertions.
Quote:The Berkley article is especially enlightening on how, specifically, scientific understanding of evolution alone impacts our daily lives.Just links with the relevant material quoted next time, please, I'm not here to play games.
Quote:And if you don't understand why physics is necessary for modern technology, I'm not even going to google that for you, as evidence is sitting right in front of you!For the umpteenth time, most creationists only dispute origins issues, and are fine with other uses of science.
Quote:I typed up my whole reply, but now I see it was a complete waste of time. His example directly referenced evolution of disease causing organisms. You must have dismissed it without even looking at it!Quote it.