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Ex-Christians
RE: Ex-Christians
(November 12, 2012 at 5:10 pm)Truth Matters Wrote: [quote='Ryantology' pid='361807' dateline='1352744835']

No argument insisting the existence of God is valid until God is conclusively proven to be real. He is fiction until proven otherwise.

Your refusal to accept this does not constitute a victory in debate. Sorry to break your streak. :c

That's obviously false.
The arguments and evidence ARE the demonstration of probable existence (ontological foundations).

Using your sloppy thinking, atoms, subatomic particles, gravity or love could not be proven real. We only know of them by evidence and experience derived from their known effects.

Sorry, but your poor reasoning skills don't defeat anything.

(November 12, 2012 at 2:40 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't think you have been paying attention.

Every argument you have put forward has been tired, old, well refuted looonnnggg ago bollocks.

I think you like to delude yourself that you've won an argument the same way my dad does, by being loud and always saying the last thing.
This has no bearing on whether he is right or not, just that he's louder and more persistent.
Quote:Then defeat one of them. You can't. You just claim it.

Ok then one of your most common arguments is the frankly pathetic onotological argument which boils down to "god must exist because he just must".
It tries to use invalid, evidence free reasoning to magic god into existance.

Quote:if the greatest possible being exists in the mind, it must also exist in reality. If it only exists in the mind, a greater being is possible—one which exists in the mind and in reality

The argument makes a statement that it fails to back up with anything resembling evidence or even good logic.

It is a massive fail

Well that's one.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.




 








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Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 8, 2012 at 9:38 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by pocaracas - November 8, 2012 at 9:46 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Aractus - November 8, 2012 at 9:56 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 9, 2012 at 2:06 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Darth - November 8, 2012 at 10:08 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Faith No More - November 8, 2012 at 10:22 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Something completely different - November 8, 2012 at 11:11 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Aractus - November 9, 2012 at 7:57 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Strongbad - November 9, 2012 at 2:50 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Aractus - November 11, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Utracia - November 11, 2012 at 11:35 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Minimalist - November 11, 2012 at 2:43 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Strongbad - November 11, 2012 at 9:27 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Aractus - November 12, 2012 at 6:39 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by frankiej - November 12, 2012 at 6:49 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Strongbad - November 12, 2012 at 8:13 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Aractus - November 12, 2012 at 8:18 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Strongbad - November 12, 2012 at 8:51 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Aractus - November 13, 2012 at 4:25 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Strongbad - November 13, 2012 at 9:14 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by pocaracas - November 13, 2012 at 10:22 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Strongbad - November 13, 2012 at 12:01 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by pocaracas - November 12, 2012 at 9:13 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Edwardo Piet - November 13, 2012 at 5:45 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Strongbad - November 8, 2012 at 12:10 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2012 at 12:16 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Strongbad - November 8, 2012 at 12:34 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2012 at 12:39 pm
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RE: Ex-Christians - by The Grand Nudger - November 9, 2012 at 9:02 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by downbeatplumb - November 9, 2012 at 2:18 pm
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Silas Stingy - November 9, 2012 at 2:39 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cyberman - November 9, 2012 at 4:43 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - November 9, 2012 at 4:59 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Truth Matters - November 9, 2012 at 7:15 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - November 9, 2012 at 7:44 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Truth Matters - November 9, 2012 at 8:03 pm
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Truth Matters - November 9, 2012 at 9:24 pm
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Godschild - November 10, 2012 at 5:41 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Minimalist - November 11, 2012 at 12:47 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Zen Badger - November 9, 2012 at 9:41 pm
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Truth Matters - November 9, 2012 at 11:24 pm
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - November 10, 2012 at 12:27 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Truth Matters - November 10, 2012 at 1:19 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Truth Matters - November 12, 2012 at 12:00 pm
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - November 10, 2012 at 3:31 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Whateverist - November 12, 2012 at 3:19 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 11, 2012 at 12:37 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 11, 2012 at 10:50 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Gilgamesh - November 11, 2012 at 10:50 pm
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Gilgamesh - November 12, 2012 at 2:28 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 13, 2012 at 6:12 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - November 14, 2012 at 11:19 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Minimalist - November 10, 2012 at 1:25 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - November 10, 2012 at 11:58 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Kirbmarc - November 10, 2012 at 9:06 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 6:30 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 7:40 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Aractus - November 11, 2012 at 7:52 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 7:54 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 11, 2012 at 11:10 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - November 11, 2012 at 1:56 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Edwardo Piet - November 11, 2012 at 11:18 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 11, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2012 at 2:47 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Minimalist - November 12, 2012 at 12:17 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 13, 2012 at 5:41 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Faith No More - November 12, 2012 at 1:10 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Truth Matters - November 12, 2012 at 2:16 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - November 12, 2012 at 2:20 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by downbeatplumb - November 12, 2012 at 2:40 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - November 13, 2012 at 5:50 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Simon Moon - November 13, 2012 at 6:04 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by LastPoet - November 12, 2012 at 1:29 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - November 12, 2012 at 2:27 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Truth Matters - November 12, 2012 at 5:10 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - November 12, 2012 at 8:28 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - November 12, 2012 at 9:10 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by downbeatplumb - November 13, 2012 at 2:48 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Faith No More - November 12, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Kousbroek - November 12, 2012 at 2:58 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Minimalist - November 12, 2012 at 8:56 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by KichigaiNeko - November 13, 2012 at 4:34 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 14, 2012 at 11:46 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - November 15, 2012 at 1:14 am
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RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - November 15, 2012 at 7:32 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - November 18, 2012 at 6:32 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - November 15, 2012 at 2:18 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by KichigaiNeko - November 16, 2012 at 10:23 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Faith No More - November 18, 2012 at 1:19 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - December 10, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cyberman - December 11, 2012 at 6:54 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cyberman - November 18, 2012 at 1:27 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Lion IRC - December 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Brunitski - December 10, 2012 at 10:16 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Norfolk And Chance - December 10, 2012 at 10:18 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Kousbroek - November 18, 2012 at 1:40 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by LastPoet - November 18, 2012 at 2:36 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Kayenneh - December 10, 2012 at 5:04 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - December 10, 2012 at 6:11 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Faith No More - December 10, 2012 at 6:17 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Minimalist - December 10, 2012 at 10:08 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Lion IRC - December 10, 2012 at 10:13 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Minimalist - December 11, 2012 at 12:04 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 11, 2012 at 12:05 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cinjin - December 11, 2012 at 12:25 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Jackalope - December 11, 2012 at 12:31 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Lion IRC - December 12, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Jackalope - December 12, 2012 at 12:57 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Lion IRC - December 12, 2012 at 11:40 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Lion IRC - December 10, 2012 at 10:24 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Norfolk And Chance - December 10, 2012 at 10:29 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Lion IRC - December 10, 2012 at 10:45 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Norfolk And Chance - December 10, 2012 at 10:49 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Lion IRC - December 10, 2012 at 11:20 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Darkstar - December 10, 2012 at 11:28 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 10, 2012 at 10:55 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Norfolk And Chance - December 10, 2012 at 11:04 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Voltron - December 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Brunitski - December 10, 2012 at 11:00 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 10, 2012 at 11:05 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Faith No More - December 10, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Kayenneh - December 11, 2012 at 12:34 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by pocaracas - December 11, 2012 at 7:30 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by TaraJo - December 12, 2012 at 11:18 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Tnmusicman - January 3, 2013 at 5:51 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Dee Dee Ramone - December 13, 2012 at 12:14 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by overlord fombax - December 13, 2012 at 12:15 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - December 13, 2012 at 12:37 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Kirbmarc - December 13, 2012 at 9:16 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Faith No More - December 13, 2012 at 9:21 am
RE: Ex-Christians - by Cyberman - December 13, 2012 at 10:09 pm
RE: Ex-Christians - by Ryantology - December 13, 2012 at 7:06 pm

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