RE: The Spirit (Hebrew Ruach / Greek Pneuma)
November 8, 2008 at 11:49 am
(This post was last modified: November 8, 2008 at 11:58 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(November 8, 2008 at 11:43 am)Daystar Wrote:If the definition of religion is a belief system. Then everyone is religious including you.(November 7, 2008 at 11:40 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Atheism is not a religion. Religion believes in the supernatural/God, thats why its religious. Atheism does NOT believe in the supernatural/God, thats why its NOT a religion.
'Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color.' - Don Hirschberg.
And as to whether you consider them a creed or not, consider this:
'Indeed, organizing atheists has been compared to herding cats, because they tend to think independently and will not conform to authority.' - Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion.
EVF, Atheism is a religion. Religion is a system of beliefs strictly held. You believe there is no god. Religious people tend not to think as much as feel religion, you don't think much about god and therefore are ignorant of the fact that a god can be anything - natural or supernatural. Atheism's god is so called 'science' of evolution.
You all think like religious people. You are religious by any definition.
Dawkins would probably also complain that there are too many variations in Christianity. Which is saying the same thing about them as Atheists, which is pretty short sighted.
Also if God can also be natural and not supernatural, he has to obey natural laws, so natural laws are above him. So why call him God?
The point is that the variations of Christianity all have faith. The variations of Atheism do not have faith. Thats why they're not religious.
Perhaps 100% 'gnostic' strong atheists have at least some faith because they can't KNOW there is not a God. God is undisprovable. But thats another matter. And there's a whole other thread that I created for that subject.
De Facto atheists/other at least slightly agnostic atheists do not have faith.