My dumbass parents doubt evolution

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Physics. Forces. Strong nuclear. Weak nuclear. Gravity. Magnetic.

There is force which I call “soul” that can be proven to exist by scientific method. Take a rock and drop it. Physics can predict quite accurately exactly what will happen to the rock.

The rock will obey gravity, land on the floor and remain there until……………

Until what?

Until I walk over and pick it up. I can lift the rock using my own free will/volition.

Physics cannot predict when or EVEN IF I will pick up the rock.

Physics has no name for the unpredictable and VERY REAL force acting upon the matter of my shoulder, my arm, my hand, the rock in the EXACT OPPOSITE DIRECTION of gravity.

It is not hormones – hormones are matter.
It is not brain – brain cells are matter. Matter has no free will.

So what exactly is the name of the force (which acts in a way science cannot predict) that lifts the rock doing the opposite of what gravity intended?

OK, let's pick apart your argument for a moment.

I dont think you understood my *cough* ''argument''

If you drop the rock, and a monkey walks over and picks it up is it because the monkey has a "soul" too? Of course not, they only have "free will".

OK we can use a monkey versus gravity rather than a man versus gravity if you like. No biggie. Gravity cant and doesnt ''decide'' to pick up rocks. Are you claiming that monekys and rocks are both equally lacking in volition? That physics can predict the act of a monkey deciding to pick up a rock and throw it? Can the laws of physics predict which direction the monkey will throw the rock? How hard the monkey will throw it? Why the rock must be thrown at that exact point in time rather than 30 seconds earlier or 10 minutes later?

Do you understand that the biggest hurdle standing in the way of a Unified Theory of Everything is the INABILITY of physics to predict everything that will necessarily happen? (No absolute time. No absolute relative position.)

The only certain principle is UNCERTAINTY.

And you're gonna come in here and try to tell me that primate behaviour (pick up rock and throw it) is subject to predictable laws of physics?

...But free will is not a requirement for life.

Who said it was? Not me.

... Plants, fungi and bacteria live a happy productive existence devoid of having any free will.

How would you know? Who told you that? Can you speak to mushrooms?

No one knows exactly what DNA is...
No one knows exactly how free will arises...
Life is just a highly complicated system...