(November 3, 2008 at 12:18 am)Meatball Wrote: I can get behind the concept of a "spirit" being a primitive explanation melting together the concepts of "life-force" and "conciousness". I think we already have better words for those however, rendering the word "spirit" obsolete. Sorta like phlogiston.
Hi meatball
I'm sorry that I did not follow this interesting thread from the beginning.
You are totally right.
Daystar exposes an "erudite" theory of Spirit mixing up hebrew and greek notions.
Very impresive but at last what concerns the hebrew language utterly shallow.
Ruakh in Hebrew means just wind and not to breath which translated reads ''Linshom".The root of 'Linshom" is common to "Neshama" which means soul.
The method of all religious people is to refer to the Bible ,generally mixing up the Old Testament with the Gospel,as a Holly document whose reality and truth every man should not even dare to contest.
They conceal the fact that the Old testament in it's canonized form known to us ,was written by men in about the 6-th century B.C. as ordered by king Joshiyahu of Judah, mainly as a political document
meant to certify his pretensions as successor of King Davids dynasty,
who lived some 400 years before.
Actually the bible was not written by one man at one date but was written and rewritten many times in a mix of at least 4 styles named by scholars who are studying the roots of the Bible for about 200 years as
J-for Jehovah,E-for Elohim,P-for priests and D-for Deuteronomy.
Anyway the Bible was for sure not handed down by any God to any man
for the most simple cause that he does not exist.
With the Gospel the problem is even more simpler because it's original authors are well known :Mattheus ,Lucas ,Johanes.
Their writings are not devoid of political aspects reflecting the aspiration of the Christian politician Paulus to create an ideological platform to the new religion of whom he was the most proeminent representative.
The epic of throwing on the Jews the sin of the martyrdom of Jesus is not random but reflects the profound contradiction which the new religion aroused among the Diaspora jewish communities after the destruction of the jewish state by Titus, son of the roman emperor Vespasianus in the year 70 A.C.
A great deal of christian religious writings as quoted by Daystar have also a strong political base reflecting inner contradiction of the christened roman Empire and it's religious ruling authorities so that their "saintyness" is more than questionable.