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Contradiction of greatest
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RE: Contradiction of greatest
(October 5, 2009 at 12:23 am)Arcanus Wrote:
(October 4, 2009 at 9:14 am)amw79 Wrote: I'll take it this is an oversight as opposed to an example of your Christian 'blind-spot'. Once again, regardless of the validity of the Christian view of morality, would you even consider that this view could be seen as self-serving?

I suppose you could call it an oversight because, since every view is self-serving in that sense, it did not function as any sort of criticism; ergo, I didn't presume it to be your central criticism. It is true that the Christian views actions as moral only when "they are taken in the context of" Christianity. However, it is also true that the consequentialist views actions as moral only when "they are taken in the context of" consequentialism, and the moral relativist views actions as moral only when "they are taken in the context of" moral relativism, and so forth.

But you can't realistically call a consequentialism view of moraility "self serving", as its implicit meaning is derived from the consequence of the moral act, not the context or belief system responsible for the act.

Therefore someone can believe what they like, it is their action and consequence that is of note; whether that person is a moral consequentialist does not invalidate or belittle their moral actions. So I don't see how it could be considered self-serving.

If you don't think it is a valid criticism that a core belief of christianity has (what could be considered) a built-in defense mechanism which invalidates people's moral actions unless they're taken on behalf and in the name of Christianity; and if you can't see how this (could be seen) as uniquely self serving (not to serve morality, or mankind or even god - but to serve christianity itself), then you're not looking at the concept critically.

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(October 5, 2009 at 12:23 am)Arcanus Wrote: If you require an in-depth Bible study to demonstrate............

No thanks, I'm watching some paint dry this evening. Big Grin Thanks for the offer though.
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Contradiction of greatest - by Xyster - September 18, 2009 at 4:48 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by LukeMC - September 18, 2009 at 4:52 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Violet - September 18, 2009 at 5:32 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Dotard - September 18, 2009 at 8:02 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by GrayAreas - September 28, 2009 at 12:49 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by theVOID - September 28, 2009 at 1:03 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by fr0d0 - September 28, 2009 at 3:51 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - September 28, 2009 at 3:55 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Amphora - September 30, 2009 at 11:28 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by fr0d0 - September 30, 2009 at 11:56 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Retorth - September 30, 2009 at 12:05 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Amphora - September 30, 2009 at 12:16 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by fr0d0 - September 30, 2009 at 12:07 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Retorth - September 30, 2009 at 12:10 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Rhizomorph13 - September 30, 2009 at 1:01 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Retorth - September 30, 2009 at 12:18 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Edwardo Piet - September 30, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 1, 2009 at 2:53 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Eilonnwy - October 1, 2009 at 9:48 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Minimalist - October 1, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 1, 2009 at 6:12 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Eilonnwy - October 1, 2009 at 7:45 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Violet - October 1, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by theblindferrengi - October 1, 2009 at 8:35 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 2, 2009 at 2:58 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ace Otana - October 2, 2009 at 6:52 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Eilonnwy - October 2, 2009 at 11:56 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 4, 2009 at 4:29 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by amw79 - October 4, 2009 at 7:10 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 4, 2009 at 7:43 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by amw79 - October 4, 2009 at 8:36 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 4, 2009 at 9:03 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by amw79 - October 4, 2009 at 9:14 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 5, 2009 at 12:23 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by amw79 - October 5, 2009 at 11:11 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Eilonnwy - October 6, 2009 at 9:02 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Retorth - October 4, 2009 at 1:35 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Xyster - October 5, 2009 at 2:35 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Meatball - October 8, 2009 at 11:32 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by fr0d0 - October 8, 2009 at 4:06 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 8, 2009 at 5:59 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Eilonnwy - October 9, 2009 at 9:35 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by amw79 - October 9, 2009 at 4:03 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 13, 2009 at 11:34 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by amw79 - October 13, 2009 at 12:26 pm
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Eilonnwy - October 14, 2009 at 10:21 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Ryft - October 19, 2009 at 6:27 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by amw79 - October 19, 2009 at 8:24 am
RE: Contradiction of greatest - by Edwardo Piet - October 19, 2009 at 9:57 am

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