(December 4, 2012 at 11:21 am)A Theist Wrote: Maybe you see it that way, but I see it being a battle for the culture...a struggle between two philosophies....traditionalists who are struggling to preserve the culture and the neo-leftists who are attempting to overthrow the culture and replace it entirely with a distortion of our culture...
I would agree that there is a war for our culture, one that has been fought since the American Revolution started. In each battle along the way, there were reactionaries who drew inspiration from Christianity and the Bible to fight against it.
It was one thing to boldly proclaim "all men are created equal" but living up to that promise has been our struggle throughout history. Such a concept wasn't even enshrined in our federal constitution until the 14th amendment, and even with that promise it hasn't yet been fully implemented.
In the history of the Revolutionary War, there were the Tories who fought as loyalists to the crown. Doubtless, they were inspired by Romans 13:1-2 which proclaimed the divine right of kings to rule (all the rage in Europe at that time).
Then there were the slave owners of the south who felt their right to own slaves was both ensured and regulated by the Bible. The OT regulated the practice of slavery, including how to beat your slaves, how to sell your slaves and even how to rape your slaves if you fancied them. The NT admonished slaves to obey their masters and accept their lot in life as assigned from on high.
And then the civil rights struggle took over a century to more-or-less carry the promise of equality, fought against by Christians who thought their god created the races to be separate.
And "all men" should include "all women" as well but Christians fought on the wrong side of this battle, gaining inspiration from Paul's epistles that clearly placed women in a subservient position to men.
Notice a pattern here?
Each battle must be fought against reactionaries who claim the mantle of the will of Jesus and "traditional values". Each one decries the radicals and trouble-makers who upset tradition and the "proper order" as ordained by their god. Each one disavows the previous group of reactionaries as people who didn't understand either American values or the teachings of Jesus ...except the rhetoric of the reactionaries always seems to sound eerily similar.
It's like what Jesus said, a man can't serve two masters. As he loves one, he must hate the other. The Bible or The Constitution? Which do you serve?
Or as Rushdooney, the leader of the Christian Dominionist movement said, "Christianity and democracy are enemies."
Crushing the political influence of Christianity is nothing less than the last great battle of the American Revolution.
Down with King Jesus.
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