(December 13, 2012 at 8:21 am)TarShoduze Wrote:So you started the conversation?... try not to... it's not worth it. But if they ask, reply politely.(December 13, 2012 at 6:36 am)pocaracas Wrote: They'll usually reply with something about the bible.... -.-'Thanks so much for the reply
Poor deluded folks... [...] Books abound, how do you tell if they're fact or fiction, if it's not spelled out on the cover?
Why would the bible be more trustworthy than any other holy book? Torah, qu'ran, vedas, etc...?Well, I actually said that on my last friendly debate. To be exact, I told her (the same classmate I mentioned on my first post), "Why should you believe the Bible when ordinary people wrote it? Humans make errors, you know that. And how can you tell that they are not lying that God and Jesus exists?" I shouldn't have debated with her if she didn't lecture me when I JUST asked her if she believes in God, but she became really touchy when I asked her.
(December 13, 2012 at 8:21 am)TarShoduze Wrote: Well, you know what she said? "They are not ordinary people! They're God's disciples! And they just wrote what God told them to!" I was silently like, "...WTF? Telekinesis?Should have gone more on the "how do you know that?" Oh yeah.. it's in the same book they wrote!
I write a book and in it include the mention that everything in it is true.... Circular reasoning
(December 13, 2012 at 8:21 am)TarShoduze Wrote: I believe in God just like you are!" (*blech*Don't lie... it can bite you in the ass, someday.I was a liar...) Well, what should I say when confronted that defense? I just can't believe she was too ignorant to belive that stuff.
Most people just believe because they're indoctrinated... they've never thought about it, "that's just how the world is".
Don't fight! If you get aggressive, they'll back off and you'll be seen as the bad guy.
Just keep cool and tell them how it is that you don't believe. How you came to that conclusion. If they can attack your train of thought, think harder

Most of the times, they can't... just as you can't really attack theirs (circular reasoning, remember? they can't get out).
So, if it looks like they've found a crack in your reasoning, they're most likely deflecting... moving the goalposts, or committing some other fallacy.
Do learn about Pascal's wager.... they like to use that one.