(October 10, 2009 at 9:21 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote:(October 10, 2009 at 3:51 pm)solarwave Wrote: God is just so can't simply forgive sins. Justice calls for a payment for sin, but mercy calls for forgiveness, so Jesus pays the price for our sin instead of us.
How is justice done by him torturing and having himself killed?
Jesus was killed by free-agents - the self-righteous whose authority was threatened.
Jesus proved his righteousness by holding strong until death - he could have escaped but it was necessary for him to take on the worst the self-righteous could deal (the highest test). And he did by faith I'm sure. His life is an example to all of us. We should be willing to die for sin (for our own, for others), just as Jesus was willing...through this God's wrath is quenched.
Side-note: If I'm not mistaken Jesus was forgiving people prior to being killed.
